[Businessmtg] Agenda

[Dawn Werezak]

Hello Everyone,

I am retracting this last email that I sent out as I misstated something.

We are on the KBDM path and we are staying on that path until it is obvious 
that it is not working.

In using the KBDM motions are inappropriate while the discussion is still in 
progress and before we reach some kind of consensus to draft a motion from.

I apologize for any confusion that this email created....sometimes being 
human isn't pretty!

Love and Serenity,
Dawn


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawn Werezak" <princessdawn at telus.net>
To: <princessdawn at telus.net>
Cc: "ASP Business" <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: [Businessmtg] Agenda


>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Yes a motion was put on the floor and it has not been seconded by anyone. 
> I cannot force a second to a motion despite a few people insinuating that 
> I am controlling this discussion to get my own way.
>
> According to the KBDM "Dialogue before Deliberating" it says:
> Many of us are familiar with using parliamentary procedures adapting 
> Robert's Rules, in varying degrees at our Assemblies and other meetings, 
> both inside the fellowship and outside in our personal lives.  This 
> process is most familiar to us because it is what we have done for many 
> years.  As a general rule, we know that you must have a motion on the 
> floor with a second before any discussion can take place.  After hearing 
> the motion, we then enter discussion and often find ourselves focusing on 
> getting the commas and wording the way we think it should be, rather than 
> discussing the pros and cons of the topic of the motion itself.   Often 
> the discussion about whether the underlying idea is something that would 
> have the desired results for the greatest number, fails to happen. The 
> minority may believe that they must wait for the decision before it can 
> adequately be heard.
>
>
>
>
> With KBDM, the procedure is just the opposite.  The discussion is held 
> with background information being introduced to frame the topic. 
> Sometimes discussions go on over long periods of time before any decision 
> for a motion or action is made. All points of view are considered at each 
> stage of the decision. Seems so simple doesn't it?  In reality, it is. 
> However; it requires a lot of research and information gathering before 
> and possibly even during the discussion.  Each method has its pros and 
> cons but we are seeing the benefits for the KBDM model, far outweigh the 
> alternative.   In reality, it is what group conscience is supposed to 
> produce-a decision that most, if not all, can support.
>
>
>
> Unlike Robert's Rules of order, a motion does not need to be on the floor 
> for discussion to take place.  Instead in KBDM discussion takes place and 
> then a motion can be put on the floor.
>
>
>
> Now we have a motion on the floor, it has not been seconded.  If at the 
> end of twenty-four hours it remains without a second then it will die a 
> natural death.  In the meantime, discussion can continue regarding the 
> Agenda.
>
>
>
> So as the person who is leading the meeting, I will not restate the motion 
> and I will not ask for a second.  If you will all recall the last motion 
> that was made was not restated nor did I ask for a second,  it came 
> naturally as should all motions.
>
>
>
> Please note the last line in the KBDM above: "In reality, it i s what 
> group conscience is supposed to produce - a decision that most, if not all 
> can support."
>
>
>
> Love and Serenity,
>
> Dawn
>
>
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