[Businessmtg] (no subject)

[Jon Markle]

Again.  Another prime example of abuse of power and inappropriate  
attempts to control healthy dialogue.

The questions asked were perfectly valid considering we have no other  
way to know the candidate, like we might in a f2f meeting.

I believe you are out of order in your criticism, and your judgemental  
assessment feels like a personal attack, bordering on flaming.  You  
have no right to attack me or anyone else for asking legitament  
questions about the position or of the candidates qualifications.

PS:  trusted servant positions are a public group decision based on  
the facts. Not done in the private backroom discussion & politicking.   
We as a group have not granted you or other TSs that kind of authority.

It's unfortunant that both you and Dawn have taken this stong  
attitude, but frankly it shows exactly why some of us are questiong  
the upper echelon power structure of ASP.

Hugs for the trudge
Jon (Raleigh)
9/9/82

Take a chance - LIVE SOBER -- with zest. (Len R)

If it appears I was all thumbs when I wrote this, I was!  Sent from my  
iPhone.

On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:

> HI folks,
>
> It's difficult to describe how appalling it is to watch members of ASP
> discuss another member in this meeting.
>
> Since when is it OK to discuss the merits of another member of Al- 
> Anon in a
> meeting?  Challenging her on what meetings she attends or doesn't  
> attend.
> Certainly, we encourage ASP members to attend f2f meetings, but  
> since when
> do we infer that they aren't qualified to serve ASP without a face- 
> to-face
> home group or a background in face-to-face service?
>
> And even questioning her sponsorship!
>
> All in the name of Al-Anon  --  Unbelievably pathetic and  
> appalling.  Even
> worse than the worst I've seen in face-to-face Al-Anon and I've seen  
> some
> truly disgusting behavior in Al-Anon.
>
> The closest parallel to our List Administrator position is the Group  
> Rep
> position in a face-to-face meeting.  As a result, we have similar
> qualifications to serve ASP as the List Administrator.  No more and  
> no less.
>
>
> Love and SERENITY,
> Steve
>
>
> FYI, it is appropriate for a Steering Committee or Board of  
> Directors to
> discuss the relative merits of candidates for an appointed position.
> However, those discussions are confined to the officers of that Al- 
> Anon
> entity and only for positions that they may appoint members to.  The  
> only
> situation where it is appropriate to query or challenge a member of  
> Al-Anon
> regarding their qualifications for an elected service position is when
> someone has evidence that the candidate is not qualified to serve  
> according
> to the established group consciences of that meeting/group/district/ 
> area
> and/or what is written in the service manual regarding that type or  
> level of
> service.
>
>
>
>
>
> To put your ASP mail on Vacation Hold or unsubscribe visit the ASP  
> member
> instruction page at
>
> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/nbm/business_meeting_instruction.htm
>
> The ASP web site for ASP members is
> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/MembersOnly/index.htm
>
> For assistance with Business Meeting issues, contact Dawn, the List
> Administrator atbusiness at asp-afg.org
>
>
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Hugs for the trudge
Jon (Raleigh)
9/9/82

Take a chance - LIVE SOBER -- with zest. (Len R)

If it appears I was all thumbs when I wrote this, I was!  Sent from my  
iPhone.