[Businessmtg] "Participation" Discussion

Edward Graeff oldwolf at cox.net
Fri Apr 9 21:33:12 PDT 2010


To this I would add the 'what if' what if only one person stepped for ward for a position?  We have to be careful; the more we write about these things, the more complicated they seem to get.

ED

On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:36 PM, logmark at comcast.net wrote:

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> Somethings I've been thinking over: 
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> Almost always we have only one person standing for a position. 
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> With no opportunity to choose between two or more candidates, 
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> the only means we have to assure good orderly direction for ASP's 
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> a) set minimum standards for candidates which would improve our 
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>    chances of a single candidate being a good trusted servant, 
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> b) set our minimum standards "low" enough to encourage multiple 
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>    candidates thereby giving us choices, or 
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> c) take our best shot at interpreting Al-Anon policies, which are 
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>    developed with only f2f meetings in mind, and trusting our 
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>    Higher Power(s) to see to it that everything works out okay. 
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> Or, perhaps a little of all of the above... 
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> Upon further consideration it has occurred to me that we have no 
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> "Exit Plan." What if an elected officer needs to be removed for 
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> the good of the group? Risks are easier to take if errors can 
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> be corrected. Do we need a policy on removal of an officer? 
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> Up until now we've been talking about all officer positions as 
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> requiring equal qualifications/participation. I think that's a 
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> mistake. The key position here as far as keeping the train on 
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> the tracks is the List Administrator position. At our Area level 
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> one doesn't stand for Delegate unless one has served as a District 
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> Rep for two years. I'd say that the LA position is as important to 
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> ASP as the Delegate position is to an Area. 
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> Why not set a minimum "Participation" requirement for the LA position 
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> to include at least a full rotation as a Chairman plus regular participation in the Business Meetings (or some such formula,) 
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> or even two years of active service to ASP? 
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> Other service positions are important also, but may not need quite 
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> the same limiting requirements - even much less than a year wouldn't 
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> hurt for some and it may encourage more participation from newer ASP 
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> members who have lengthy f2f service histories. 
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> Bottom line, I think the one-year blanket covers too much or too 
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> little ground. 
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> Things others have mentioned that I agree with, or think is important: 
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> That the resume asks the probing questions about "How have you participated in ASP...," and service positions held to include f2f. 
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> That candidates identify themselves by both their name and email name 
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> so I can cast my vote with some knowledge of the person's ASP history 
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> both as a sharing member and as a past servant. 
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> That regular Business Meeting participation be an absolute requirement 
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> for principle officer candidates. 
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> That one year's participation in ASP is a prerequisite to serving [in 
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> the Secretary and Treasurer positions?] {Two years for LA} {Topic Chair 
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> could be for less, but would prevent elevation to LA, etc.} 
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> What I'm getting at is not recommending any details, but suggesting 
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> a sliding scale or some sort. 
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> In our old "Twelve and Twelve" there is a statement which reads 
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> approximately, "Our meetings are made up of both listening and sharing 
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> [emphasis added]..." Anyone who does not share regularly enough to 
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> be readily recognized would not, in my mind, be an appropriate 
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> trusted servant (TRUSTED servant.) I'd hope the voting would take 
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> care of this. However, since it has been somewhat unusual for two 
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> or more to stand, I believe that we could consider implementing 
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> a "Substantial Majority" standard for electing any officer. Should 
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> no one receive [2/3's?] of the votes of the total membership 
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> of the Business Committee or other electing body, then no one is 
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> elected. We could follow the plan in the Service Manual for retaking 
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> votes until we come to a resolution. 
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> Too much thinking for this old noggin on a Friday night... 
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> Have a good weekend everyone. 
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> Jerry 
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