[Businessmtg] Show of hands

[Steve Rankin]

Hi ASPers,

 

I think it is necessary to make some corrections to Sandie's post regarding
the tally of votes:

 

1. The effect of abstention votes varies according to the nature and wording
of the motion and the rules of the organization involved. In the case of
ASP, most motions must receive a 2/3's majority of the VOTING MEMBERS to
pass. The exceptions are simple non-controversial housekeeping motions not
involving any substantive change to the meeting require a simple majority of
the voting members, and motions to change any part of the Founding
Principles of ASP require a 75% affirmative vote of the ENTIRE membership of
ASP, not merely those attending the Business Meeting. 

 

In other words, at ASP, votes to abstain are counted as "No" votes because
the member voted, but not in favor of the motion. 

 

For example, let's say that 40 people attended the Business Meeting, and 30
voted on a motion. Of those 30 voting:

18 voted for the motion,

10 voted against the motion, 

2 abstained,

10 didn't vote at all.

Since 30 members voted, the motion required a minimum of 20 to pass. The
motion failed because 18 is less than 2/3's of the voting members. 

 

The process may be different in other places and organizations, but this is
the way it is written in our Founding Policies. 

 

Hugs,

Steve

 

 

 

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Subject: [Businessmtg] Show of hands

 

Knowledge Based Decision Making allows for all discussion of all information
prior to a motion being developed and presented or no motion.

 

Where we came to the show on hands was on a discussion in the previous
business meeting where we discussed the topic and there was not going to be
a motion on the topic.  The secretary elected to have a poll where the
questions were:

Drop the topic

Continue talking 

......

The webmaster set up a poll and everyone voted. 

 

As a FYI - According to Steve 67% were in favour of dropping the topic. X #
chose to abstain, which in reality increases the percentage of those in
favor of dropping the topic. In votes such as this the abstainers are
removed from the total voters. Eg. If if had 40 registered in the Business
meeting and 4 abstained the percentage in favor is based on 36 not 40! 

 

Hugs

Sandie

 

 

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