[Businessmtg] Fwd: Service Positions

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The Newcomer Committee was not even voted on until the May Business Meeting and the earliest date started was May 23.. 

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandie,
> 
> My records show that the Newcomer Committee began working on this project on
> April 18, 2017. That's just 4 days short of 6 months; something I don't
> think we need to quibble about. By the time Kristen would be elected, she'd
> have the full 6 months on the Newcomer Committee. 
> 
> Hugs,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Businessmtg
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> Sandie - ASP
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:05 PM
> To: Steve - SC
> Cc: ASP Business
> Subject: [Businessmtg] Fwd: Service Positions
> 
> Based on your reply then Kristen does not qualify this Business Meeting to
> allow her name to stand as the Newcomer Committee is not quite 5 months. 
> 
> Sandie
> Iron Bridge, Ontario
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: "Steve Rankin" <steve at serenitysys.com>
>> Date: October 14, 2017 at 3:23:51 PM EDT
>> To: Aspsave at gmail.com
>> Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Service Positions
>> 
>> Hi Jennifer,
>> 
>> Attending the Business Meeting requires nothing more than having an 
>> email address subscribed to the Business Meeting. That is little 
>> different than having one's email address subscribed on the ASP 
>> server, which is addressed very specifically in the resume form:
>> 
>> ". . . merely having one's email address on the ASP server is not 
>> participation."
>> 
>> Likewise, having one's email address on the Business Meeting roster is 
>> not qualifying "service" to ASP.
>> 
>> OTOH, serving ASP on a special committee tasked with a specific duty, 
>> whether it be a standing committee such as the Greeter Committee or a 
>> special committee such as the Newcomer Committee is participation in 
>> service to ASP. Participation on one of these committees is by 
>> definition performing a duty for ASP that involves considerable work &
> effort. That is service.
>> 
>> I would not consider attendance in the Business Meeting as service to 
>> ASP, and certainly not service qualifying a member to serve as an officer.
>> Attendance in the Business Meeting doesn't constitute  service to ASP, 
>> especially since most that "attend" do not participate on any level.
>> 
>> Lastly, as Sandie pointed out earlier, the Business Meetings are not 
>> necessarily bi-monthly. Business meetings are held on an ad hoc basis 
>> - as needed. When we have issues that need to be addresses, we tend to 
>> have bi-monthly business meetings. But, when things are going 
>> smoothly, which is the norm in ASP, we may not have a business meeting for
> many months.
>> 
>> Hugs,
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
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