[Businessmtg] Website

[Jane Anon]

Exactly. I made decisions in my role as webmaster that were subsequently
approved by the SC. Until now, the general membership was not consulted.
They should be. The old websites didn't have input from the general
membership either.

On Oct 17, 2017 9:34 PM, "Sandie Parkker" <sandieparkker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jane.  There is no consensus.  None of the changes *you* made on the
> website had a consensus.  We, the membership, were not included to make
> those decisions.  The decisions you made Jane were unilateral.  Bottom line.
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM Jane Anon <happynjoyousnfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Beverly,
>>
>> Motions are usually made by one individual, then seconded. Sandie helped
>> me
>> with the wording... I don't understand the objection.
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:51 PM, "Sandie Parkker" <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Jane.  I was just noticing that "The language of the motion was
>> > developed in an email exchange between Sandie and myself. "What in this
>> > email between you and Sandie states the process of going to the BM with
>> > this information?
>> > It really sounds silly that you and Sandie can come up with a motion by
>> > yourselves.  Where are the rest of us in this decision?  The group?
>> >
>> > Peace and hugs,
>> > Beverly
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM Jane Anon <happynjoyousnfree at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The language of the motion was developed in an email exchange between
>> >> Sandie and myself. She sent it to the meeting at my request and wrote
>> >> "moved by Jane." I'm just letting you all know that I take ownership of
>> >> that motion.
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 17, 2017 6:39 PM, "Cathy A." <cathysinger0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Jane,
>> >> >
>> >> > Please send   "And yes, I did make the motion and asked that Sandie
>> post
>> >> > it."
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you send what you sent to Sandie to us?
>> >> >
>> >> > I never saw it. I have continued to look and look for this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Take Care of Yourself!
>> >> > Cathy A.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Oct 17, 2017 6:28 PM, "Jane Anon" <happynjoyousnfree at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > For reference, this was the old member site
>> >> > http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/MembersOnly/index.htm and the one we have
>> >> used
>> >> > since early 2015 is
>> >> > http://asp-afg.org/members/
>> >> >
>> >> > The reason I asked for this to be put on the agenda is because
>> changing
>> >> or
>> >> > approving the ASP websites has always stopped at the level of the
>> >> Steering
>> >> > Committee, but 6 months ago or so, Steve said in the SC that the
>> >> Business
>> >> > Meeting should approve the websites because they belong to ASP as a
>> >> whole.
>> >> > The topic was then brought to the May meeting, and the consensus
>> seemed
>> >> to
>> >> > be let's just vote on it already... But the meeting ended abruptly
>> and
>> >> > there was no vote.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since then, we have had officers to elect so the issue was
>> forgotten. My
>> >> > term ends next month. I wanted you all to let your voices be heard
>> >> > regarding the websites, and I am concerned that the new SC will
>> change
>> >> > things without your consent once I'm gone.
>> >> >
>> >> > I understood the resistance to voting on the websites when we were
>> >> still on
>> >> > the election process, but I don't understand it now. The voting is
>> >> > happening for those who volunteered. The websites really seem like a
>> >> yes or
>> >> > no issue--either you approve of them or you don't.... And any one
>> member
>> >> > can ask that something be added to the agenda before or after the BM
>> >> > starts. Adding it is at the sole discretion of the chair.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Steering Committee has voted to approve the websites twice, once
>> in
>> >> > 2015 and recently... But you should have the chance to approve them
>> as
>> >> > well. Or not. My hope is that from here on out, changes will be made
>> via
>> >> > participation of not only the Steering Committee, but other
>> interested
>> >> > members as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes I worked hard on transferring the old sites to the new. Yes I
>> have
>> >> > fought to keep them because I feel that they are more helpful to
>> members
>> >> > and especially newcomers than the older sites, but I have ALWAYS
>> >> welcomed
>> >> > collaboration, despite implications to the contrary. I leave it in
>> your
>> >> > hands to decide what to do with them going forward.
>> >> >
>> >> > And yes, I did make the motion and asked that Sandie post it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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