[Businessmtg] Fw: Re: more questions and concerns

Karen Clem kacasp17 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 18 09:38:48 PDT 2017


 This is the second attachment to this email.  i am not sure if these were ever reviewed by the BM members.  thanks
hugggsss,
karen c

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Adele Steirnagle <asteirnagle at me.com>To: Karen Clem <kacasp17 at yahoo.com>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017, 6:26:56 PM MDTSubject: Re: [Businessmtg] more questions and concerns
 Correction:
Cannot take founding father dominance.....

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Adele Steirnagle <asteirnagle at me.com> wrote:
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> You can take me off the meeting attendance. I gave up. 
> Can take the founding father dominance.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Karen Clem via Businessmtg <businessmtg at asp-afg.org> wrote:
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>> Hi ASP Business Members and Sandie...
>> I have several questions.  The first of these is how many current business members are in this meeting?  I count 21.  Has anyone rejoined this meeting since they left and how many have left the meeting and not returned.  That will impact our count.  Next, can you please respond to the entire membership when you answer our questions instead of responding to us as individuals.  The questions being asked are for the bm members to see and address.  It is disturbing that these are not being put out for the members to see.  Is there something that is being  hidden or overlooked here?  This would not only help to fill in the blanks, but it would also keep everyone participating in the meeting on the same level.  I do not  believe that individual answers to members asking questions is appropriate within the bm.
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>> Next,  there are plenty of reasons that the web page needs to be addressed and placed into the next bm.  Looking back at the emails in this meeting, It would appear that we are reaching a point where approval of this website may actually hurt ASP as a whole.  It must be done in a responsible manner that will allow for proper discussion.  Again, one persons wants do not make a group conscience.  Nor does it allow for us to vote on something that has not been through the proper kbdm process.  
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>> Lastly, we have new members in the bm that are being made to feel like they don't belong here! This could not be further from the truth.  The new bm  members have as much right to be here as do the rest of us.  THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE since this program is designed to help all those that reach out for help with alcoholism.  All are welcome here whether we are in the recovery meeting or the bm.  Ask yourself, how would you all feel if as a newcomer to both al-anon and asp/ (recovery and bm apply here)  you were asked who invited you?    We are al-anon and we have principles that guide us for a reason.  
>> On a personal note, I want to welcome the new members to the business meeting.  YOU BELONG HERE.  WE are glad you are here.  I also need to say that the email I could not find from the new invitation for the business meeting (dated 10.9.17) was accidently deleted as i cleaned out my mail.  Thank you Sandie for reposting that for us.  I appreciate it for sure.  Thanks for listening.
>> Hugggsss,
>> Karen C
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