[Businessmtg] Point of inquiry by Beverly

[Jane Anon]

Sounds great Jerry! I will set up the poll ASAP if you like. Would you like
me to post the results of the recent polls or email them to you?

On Oct 23, 2017 1:04 PM, "Jerry" <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:

Morning Beverly and all,

I am working on this as we speak.

A number of issues keep me from freely interacting with ASP administration
tools until resolutions or work-arounds are found. This draws my attention
away from full focus on this "motion" thing.

Input from Business Meeting members is important. On the other hand time is
short for this BM. I would prefer to follow through with accepting the
request to withdraw the motion, but under Robert's Rules that would require
either 100% agreement in the straw pole, or time to have a poll vote on the
request to withdraw the motion.

I could declare the motion inappropriately made using the argument that
motions are inappropriate while in KBDM discussion mode. It can be argued
that proxy motions are unacceptable. I suppose there are other things I
could pull out of a hat.

However I have been unwilling to rip the scab off this very divisive issue
and have sought an avenue which would leave us in unison. The straw vote is
not currently unanimous - primarily because of some members not submitting
"agree" notices. There are no votes against. That puts us in a position
where we need to quickly go to a poll vote and get a simple majority to
permit withdrawal of the motion.

I didn't invent RR's and I didn't impose them on this body. However,
starting from where we are, it seems we're mighty close to getting over the
hump on this by using them.

I'd like to move to a poll vote:

 "The request by the maker of the motion to withdraw motion  #(XX) is
accepted" [or language to that effect].

Further, I'd like to extend this business meeting into November just long
enough to permit sufficient time to complete this poll according to ASP's
voting window requirements. At the end of that vote (presuming withdrawal
is accepted) I hope to receive a motion which will unite us. I'm already
working on that. Hope you are, too.

But I won't force this. Twisting arms isn't my deal. If it were I'd mention
that the simplest way out of this would be for those few remaining folks
who haven't agreed to the straw poll to do so :-).

Beverly, I am committed to following ASP's group consciences and all that
this commitment entails. In this situation that means that before we were
to officially approve our new website - in appearance and in content - the
currently posted content needs to be thoroughly reviewed, and, where its
content does not agree with the language or intent of the original
group-conscience-approved language, we will either redraft the language to
comport with the original, or discuss changes to our current GC agreement
in a KBDM process.

A reminder: I do not yet have access to the List Administrator mailbox.
Please send messages on this to the Business Meeting address.

My best thinking at the moment, folks.
Hugs all around,
Jerry
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On October 23, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
wrote:

Good morning fellow business members.  Mr. Chairman.  Welcome.

I would like to know if I can count on the new leadership to respectfully
use the ASP policies, practices and procedures correctly and as they have
been outlined and voted on in previous BM?  Going forward, to the best of
everyone’s ability for the benefit of our fellowship.

This would include, but not limited to KBDM and the parliament procedures.

And I hope I am not being improper or out of order by saying this.

Thank you for your consideration.

Beverly
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