[Businessmtg] New Determination / Review of Motion Sequence

[Jerry H.]

Biz-Pals,


Boy, you folks are putting this rookie through my paces! :-)


I have again gone back and reviewed the October Business Meeting traffic carefully. Unless I made a mistake this time the pertinent dates and times are as follows:

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(Operating in KBDM - Motions Improper Except where Consensus Exists)

10.17.17  [6:49A] Sandie presents Jane's original motion

10.18.17  [2:37P] Jerry suggests different language seeking unity

10.18.17  Jane withdraws her 10.17 motion and makes a motion similar to Jerry's

10.18.17  [3:10P] Sandie notes that Jane's 10.17 motion can only be withdrawn by Jane

10.18.17  [4:28P] Kristin makes motion as Jerry's suggestion with minor change

10.18.17  [4:37P] Steve seconds Kristin's motion.

10.18.17  [4:47P] Steve asks Sandie if we are reverting to Robert's Rules at this time

10.18.17  [4:57P] BJ seconds Jane's motion

10.18.17  [5:08P] Sandie announces we are now operating under Robert's Rules

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(Operating under Robert's Rules - Motions Proper)

10.19.17  [7:35A] Jane makes new motion* based on Jerry's suggestion

10.19.17  [8:41A] BJ seconds Jane's new motion



New Determination:


~ While in the KBDM phase, all motions made were out of order (no consensus.)

~ Switch to Robert's Rules confirmed by Sandie on 10.19.17 at 5:08PM.

~ Jane's 10.19.17 motion* was properly made and seconded under Robert's Rules.


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* The following is the correct motion on the floor for discussion:


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"The ASP website, as currently posted, be temporarily accepted while the Steering Committee, the Business Meeting, and/or other created committees carefully review the differences between the "old" group conscience approved web content and the "new" posted content for future deliberations on final content, any agreed-upon changes (as well as any future changes) subject to group conscience of the ASP Business Meeting."

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If anyone cares to go through this sequence in their records or the archives and arrives with different information, please let me know. In any case this motion something I can work with, so why not go with it?


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A following note:

My intention was that we discuss the motion on the floor for the remainder of this month, then continue as part of the agenda for our next BM. I believe there are other items which are more pressing than this one, so it may not be the #1 item, but I'd really like to continue discussions. Frankly, since we are now in KBDM I think the motion to postpone is improper since I see no unanimity to do so. Sorry I brought it up in the first place.


Jerry, acting BM Chair

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