[Businessmtg] Group Representative

Mon Sep 20 19:58:20 PDT 2021

Hi JoVon,

The Group Rep would be an Officer serving on the Steering Committee, so they would be elected by the membership in a Business Meeting just like the other Officers.

Please see my response to Alison's post for what I know about where this is headed.  

FWIW, there are some rumors that some people believe that an electronic meeting should be able to join a face-to-face Area of their choosing.  That does have some merit.  Consider an electronic meeting that spun off of a face-to-face group during the pandemic.  All, or almost all of the members are local, so it would be reasonable for them to attend Area meetings in their geographical area.

OTOH, ASP is an International meeting.  While most of our members live in the USA, we have quite a few scattered around the globe.  Would it be reasonable for ASP to join the Washington State Area because I live there?  Nope.  Besides, I lived in California when I started ASP, so why not there?  And what if my wife and I pick up sticks and move to Wyoming?  

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From: Businessmtg On Behalf Of JoVon Sotak via Businessmtg
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:19 AM
To: steve at serenitysys.com
Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
Subject: [Businessmtg] Group Representative

Thank you, Steve, for kicking off this new topic. 

1. I didn’t see in the description of this portion of the motion how the group representative is selected. Is this by election? Appointment of the SC?

2. Alison mentioned she was in support of the GR attending both virtual and in-person assemblies “here and there.” I am new and from what I’ve seen locally and online, there is a specific geographic structure of representation (chapter, region, state, etc.). As this is a virtual group with members everywhere, how would ASP be appropriately or effectively represented at such F2F assemblies? Was there discussion of this at the world conference? As attendance and the GR

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> From: Alison G <graceandserenity3 at gmail.com>
> Date: September 20, 2021 at 6:50:01 AM PDT
> To: jvs925 at yahoo.com
> Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> Subject: [Businessmtg] GR
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> Hello Pals.
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> I was GR for a f2f group long ago.
> We did a variety of actions, including listed below, from Steve, (ty 
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> I am curious if it will be that the GR, here, if voted in, would also 
> attend literal assemblies, working side by side with humans, in person 
> (once Covid flies away....buh bye already!) and is an "in person" GR 
> as well as a virtual one.
> Yes. We are virtual.
> But imo, could it be possible that if we get a GR on ASP, it would be 
> beneficial for said service person to also go to an assembly here and 
> there, meeting f2f delegates, getting to be a part of that world too?
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> Also, as a f2f GR for a year, I went to the weekly biz mtg, and then 
> took back to the group itself any news, old or new. Short, succinct, 
> and brought  the so called "outside bigger Al-Anon world"
> to everyone who was a member. I feel that is something that might be 
> beneficial for our members here too.
> I feel that many, including me in the start, don't understand or know 
> about the worldwide enormous-ness that Al-Anon extends to. and It 
> might be a benefit for the GR, once a month, after a month's worth of 
> business meeting information and goings-on, to send one email to the 
> ASP recover-ers about the bigger picture of what Al-Anon does.
>  I am not eloquent right now. Hope this makes a lick of sense.
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> BUT, I do vote for YES on all fronts for ASP getting a GR, on the SC, 
> and attending all Biz meetings, as well as having a voice when 
> necessary on the Recovery side of ASP.
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> TY,
> Alison
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> *Group Representative* The general duties and responsibilities of the 
> Group Representative aredescribed in the current version of the Al-Anon Service
> Manual.     * Represents ASP in Virtual Area or other service arm as
> established bythe Al-Anon World Service Conference and/or World Service
> Office.     * Attends meetings of the Virtual Area, World Service Office
> and/orother service arms.     * Reports to members of ASP regularly via the
> Business Meeting, and ifdesirable or appropriate to the general membership
> of ASP via anannouncement in the recovery meeting.     * Is eligible to
> serve in position(s) beyond Group Representative asestablished by the 
> Al-Anon World Service Conference and/or World ServiceOffice.* Holds a seat
> on the ASP Steering Committee with voice and vote.     * Reports regularly
> to the Steering Committee on issues of interest toASP.     * Coordinates
> with Secretary to maintain ASP webpage with information.     * May incur
> reasonable expenses similar to face-to-face GroupRepresentatives, 
> which shall become the responsibility of ASP.  The SteeringCommittee 
> shall develop adequate policies regarding the budgeting, reportingand 
> reimbursement of Group Representative expenses. * 
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