[Businessmtg] Business- Archives

Lynne lynne at asp-afg.org
Sat Jan 11 17:56:54 PST 2025


Linda,
Just to be clear what our options are, if we choose to make any changes, we can:

1. Delete the entire archive and stop archiving shares. 

2. Delete the entire archive and start fresh with a new archive. 

3. Stop archiving shares, which would not delete the existing archives. 

There is not a mechanism to have archives and the delete them every 30 days. 

Hugs,
Lynne

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2025, at 5:44 PM, Linda Hicks <roslyngirl714 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Business Friends,
> 
> Since I was the person originally requesting this agenda item, I would like
> to express my thoughts on the current discussion.
> 
> First, I won't pretend to speak about the technical issues as I am totally
> unskilled and not knowledgeable in that area.  However, I think I
> understood 2 options - please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 1/  Can delete all old shares and start over with option to delete after
> specified time period
> Or
> 2/  Delete all and turn off archiving option.
> If the above is accurate, it would seen to me that deleting old archives
> and starting new with 30 day retention (or whatever) would allow the
> Steering Committee and List Administrator to do whatever monitoring they
> deem necessary and would allow those few members who use the archives to
> catch up to continue to do so.
> 
> One reason I am opposed to archiving is the anonymity of the program.
> Saving my shares for others to read indefinitely is not the way I
> understand Al-Anon works.
> If I want my shares or my story available in print,  I can write to the
> Forum which is CAL.  Often a request comes out from WSO for people to share
> their ESH fora new CAL publication being planned.
> 
> If I want my shares recorded, there are Al-Anon members who speak and
> travel and share their recovery and the recordings are available for
> purchase or online, all with their knowledge and permission.
> Both the above are good gifts of service and Step 12 work.
> Traditions 11 and 12 are addressed here also.
> 
> If I want to know more about a person in ASP, I can reply or email them
> directly and privately without going to archives without their knowledge.
> I have made several close Al-Anon friendships in ASP directly with the
> person.  Some have contacted me and some I have initiated the contact.
> Very similar to reaching out to someone after a f2f meeting - all out in
> the open.
> 
> Personally, I have no desire to search archives to see what I said here in
> 2006.  I know I've come a long way since then and I know I have more to do
> today to continue to move forward.  Looking backward at old shares, I'm
> sure I broke my AA person's anonymity which I do not do today.  I'm also
> sure I spewed more criticism and complaints than ESH which I try to focus
> on now.
> 
> In regard to ASP having no control over how members use email shares, I
> would add the same holds true for f2f meetings,  zoom meetings, phone
> meetings.  This is a program of trust in following the principles and
> Traditions by humans.
> What we hear here, supposedly stays here.
> 
> I have way too much more to say and have already talked too long.  Thank
> you for hearing me.
> Hugs, Linda
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