FW: [Businessmtg] Item #2 - Budget & P.Reserve

[Emee Arthur]

From: emee3x12 at hotmail.comTo: steve at serenitysys.comSubject: RE: [Businessmtg] Item #2 - Budget & P.ReserveDate: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:36:29 +0000


Steve, Perhaps we are not discussing sending our servants to the up-coming convention because that is item #3 and we are still on item #2.  Is it safe to make a motion  or #2 yet?  If it is ok: I would like to make a motion that we DO NO USE FUNDS OVER OUR PRUDENT RESERVE, to fund or mail any Conference approved literature to any members of ASP. Keep in mind that if this passes it would not mean that we could not still do this on a monthly basis from our regular funds. Emee      > From: steve at serenitysys.com> Subject: RE: [Businessmtg] Item #2 - Budget & P.Reserve> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:27:43 -0800> CC: businessmtg at asp-afg.org> To: emee3x12 at hotmail.com> > Hi ASPers,> > I have to ask why we are discussing the very small issue of offering to> snail mail Newcomer's Packets to new members while there is NO discussion of> the much larger issue of funding some of our trusted servants to major> service events. Specifically, the upcoming International Convention in> Philadelphia this summer. > > I've said it before and I'll say it again, I believe that we have a> responsibility to fund our officers to the Al-Anon events that are the most> appropriate for our role in the fellowship. Since the online meetings have> been denied group status and therefore we can't participate in District> meetings or Area Assemblies, the International Convention is the obvious> solution. And there is precedence since there was official Al-Anon online> presence at the International Convention in Salt Lake City in 1998.> > I can't imagine a better way to spend our funds to carry the message of our> online meeting and to further our being a real and functional part of the> Al-Anon fellowship as a whole than to send our officers to the upcoming> International. > > FYI, I carried a similar campaign in my Area in the late 90's. The Area> funded the Delegate and ALL Past Delegates, but not the Area Chair or> Alternate Delegate. Interestingly, the same year we decided to fund the> Area Chair to the events like the Delegate, we also had enough money to make> our first ever donation to WSO.> > As for giving away Newcomer Packets . . .> > I'd like to point out that no one said anything about giving away free> literature. We are only talking about offering new members a Newcomer's> Packet. Obviously, details like who would process this as well as the exact> wording of our offer to the newcomer would have to be worked out. IMHO,> those details are best left to the trusted servants that make themselves> available for the job with the help of our officers. In other words, the> details are not the prevue of a group conscience. As a group, we decide to> do something or not do it based on the principles of Al-Anon. Then we let> our trusted servants work out the details and in the process we have an> opportunity in letting go and letting God, while our trusted servants have> an opportunity to lead and not just follow minute instructions.> > And the anonymity issue. Our Tradition talks about anonymity at the level> of press, radio, TV & film. Al-Anon is NOT a secret organization where we> all wear hoods and go around pretending not to know who each other is. When> I give a newcomer my card with my full name, address and phone number on it> I didn't break my anonymity; I just 12th-Stepped them. When a newcomer> calls the central office looking for a meeting and they call me and ask me> to pick them up at their home, they didn't break the newcomer's anonymity;> they sent me out on a 12-Step call. When the Area published my full name,> address and phone number in the Area newsletter sent out to all of Northern> California as well as courtesy copies to all the other Areas, Trustees and> WSO they didn't break my anonymity. When I asked the other Area Officers> for their full names, mother's maiden names, SSN's, etc for our bank> accounts I wasn't breaking their anonymity; I was just doing my job as a> trusted servant. Yes, it is true that some people feel the need to be> secretive, and perhaps for good reason. When we realize that is the case,> then we need to respect that. But, in the mean time, we don't need to> handicap our fellowship with the fear of creating some problem somewhere.> > Finally, for those that say something like "I would have left Al-Anon if .> . . had happened." The truth is that you don't know that. We only know our> own actual experiences. If we didn't experience it, then we can only> speculate the outcome. That's why we share ONLY our actual personal> experience, strength and hope in Al-Anon. To do otherwise sure seems like a> case of focusing on the "What if's" to me. > > Thanks for listening.> > Love and SERENITY,> > Steve> > > > To put your ASP mail on Vacation Hold or unsubscribe visit the ASP member> instruction page at> > http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/nbm/business_meeting_instruction.htm> > The ASP web site for ASP members is> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/MembersOnly/index.htm> > For assistance with Business Meeting issues, contact Dawn, the List > Administrator at business at asp-afg.org> > > _______________________________________________> Businessmtg mailing list> Businessmtg at asp-afg.org> http://www.asp-afg.org/mailman/listinfo/businessmtg

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