[Businessmtg] business meeting

Fri Jun 19 10:34:28 PDT 2009

> About greeting
We did run with 3 for a long time.  but how will I get 3 if I cant get 1?


> Makes sense, Tara. In fact, what everyone says makes sense to a certain 
> degree.
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> This brings us to the next step...what do we do? Perhaps as a 
> cyber-meeting we may have to do something more creative or concede that as 
> a different style meeting venue different styles must be used. Or, let the 
> meeting go away. I guess those are our options. Or...work the current 
> people to death. :)  LOL (just kidding - not a viable option!!!)
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> In the local f2f meeting in my town there is a break in the middle of the 
> meeting to pass the basket and discuss business. Then the meeting moves 
> on. Of course, all meetings do things a bit differently. My home group 
> holds a business meeting after the f2f meeting.
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> Personally, I don't think it's always practical to get back to someone 
> within 6 - 10 hours. That would be the ideal, of course. But life does 
> happen in my household anyway. With 4 kids I've learned to expect the 
> unexpected...and it is rarely on my schedule. :)  I know that two greeter 
> positions are hard to fill and many are concerned about the time 
> commitment. What about 3 greeter positions with less alphabet and 
> therefore less time commitment?
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> Just a thought.
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> Love and hugs,
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> Kathy
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>> From: tjjtmcintyre at charter.net
>> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:40:33 -0400
>> Subject: [Businessmtg] business meeting
>> CC: businessmtg at asp-afg.org
>> To: geneskaf at hotmail.com
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>> Hello,
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>> As far as the business meeting is concerned, we learn in Al-Anon not to 
>> do for others what they can do for themselves. Therefore, to sign up all 
>> the members on our membership list for the business meeting is doing for 
>> them what they can do for themselves. They are all asked, just as you are 
>> in a face to face meeting to join the business meeting or not, to join 
>> this is free will. They choose not to join or they can choose to join and 
>> then stay or leave. We do have people that have to pay for there internet 
>> time and do not want the business meeting emails or the numerous cross 
>> talk messages and test messages that get sent to the recovery meeting. I 
>> don't think we need to cram it down their internet by forcing them to 
>> down load the business meeting emails if they choose not to join the 
>> business meeting. As for Notes they are on the web site and they have a 
>> choice to read them, look at them and re-read them.
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>> Everyone is sent the same letters when they join this meeting and they 
>> don't read the letters and this is a problem we encounter on a regular 
>> basis with a lot of emails that are not on the topic of the day. For 
>> example, when the server came back up Dawn, the LA sent an email to the 
>> group informing them the server was up and to please not send in emails 
>> saying how glad you are the server is back up. First email out of the 
>> gate was just that email demonstrating they didn't read the entire thing. 
>> Also if we put the business meeting in the recovery meeting, unlike a f2f 
>> meeting where it has a space in the meeting time, you can get business 
>> meeting emails in the midst of the recovery meeting making it very 
>> confusing to follow the thread if you are new to online meetings like the 
>> majority of our membership is. This is not Al-Anon we keep our recovery 
>> meeting apart from the business meeting for clarity purposes for the 
>> membership. We need to accept that we don't have a lot of people who want 
>> to do service or take part in the business meeting.
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>> The amount of mail I get from people not reading is amazing. If they 
>> would just take the time to read they would find the info that they need. 
>> I send them back to reread the info that we sent them when they joined. 
>> This means I am Not doing for them what they can do for themselves. Yes 
>> it would be easier to force them and do it and it would make my job easer 
>> if I spoon fed them the info they are looking for, but In Al-Anon it is 
>> not about easy it is about the traditions and the steps and we need to 
>> remember that aspect when we ask for service and for members to join the 
>> business meeting.
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>> We can not force people to be of service and to tell my sponsees that 
>> they should be of service is to manipulate the situation and force them 
>> to do something that at this time they are not able to do. This month I 
>> have needed to send out a greeting request 4 times - unheard of in my 
>> time as Greeter Chair. I was taught in Al-Anon that to say it once is to 
>> ask, to say it more is to try to control the situation. The call for 
>> Greeters has the hours and time necessary to do the job in a honest way. 
>> I have had some big back lash about not telling the job like it is 
>> regarding the amount of time needed to do the task and so I made the 
>> letter a honest hour assessment of what you need to do and how long you 
>> need to do it. We are a global meeting, with members in countries other 
>> than the Continental North America. As greeters we deal with all of those 
>> other times zones covering those inquiries for those overseas so in order 
>> to deal with the inquiries in a timely fashion and help those who are 
>> hurting and reaching out for that lifeline that brings many people to our 
>> meeting we have found it works best if the inquiries are answered within 
>> 6-10 hours. Once the inquiry reply goes out then the avarage time it 
>> takes to join this group is about 4 days. Now if you are hurting this is 
>> a long time to wait for a meeting!!!! If you make those that are 
>> inquiring about our meeting wait 2 to 3 days to hear from you then that 
>> makes it a week to join this meeting. So Yes the time does need to be 
>> there and you need to check your email a couple of times a day in order 
>> to meet that average turn around time from our end. Wouldn't you rather 
>> know that up front than say "I want to do the job" and then find out 
>> about the time commitment and then change your mind or feel like you 
>> failed because you didn't know ahead of time what you were getting into 
>> and then feel obligated to stay with it because you don't want to let 
>> someone down and you can't say, "I am unable to do this". Isn't that 
>> something we all suffer from - the inability to say no or to say I can't 
>> do this which gets us in hot water? So that is were I stand on adding 
>> every one to the business meeting and Greeting.
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>> Hugs
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>> Tara
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>> Greeting Chair
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