[Businessmtg] ATTN: motion seconded....

Wed Apr 14 17:57:00 PDT 2010

Hi Emee,

We do not post full names on our websites.  I am offering 2 links to the
group for review.

http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/Business/Trusted_Servants.htm

http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/Business/Meeting_Schedule.htm

In the service manual at the bottom of page 74 there are a couple of
paragraphs about anonymity and service.  It starts with "At the service
level (Group representatives, District Representatives, WSO, etc.)it is
practical to use full names and addresses to facilitate
communication..."  

When I was GR for my home group, I was aware in advance, that I was
giving up my anonymity as a member of the program.  I knew that if I
wanted to participate in service at that level I would need to share
that part of me.  My sharing and personal details remained anonymous.  I
always had a choice to not participate in that level of service.

Please note that our meeting chairs are not being asked to give their
full names, as stated in earlier emails, that type of service is a
valuable piece of the meeting and keeps us going each day.  It is not an
administrative position that is outward facing.  

Hugs...

Anne O
-----Original Message-----
From: businessmtg-bounces+aohara77=comcast.net at asp-afg.org
[mailto:businessmtg-bounces+aohara77=comcast.net at asp-afg.org] On Behalf
Of Emee Arthur
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:13 PM
To: aohara77 at comcast.net
Cc: ASP Business
Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] ATTN: motion seconded....

Hi All,

I know that I may sound silly but I disagree with the need to make our
last names available on line.  We have people in and out of ASP and  it
would be very easy for any of them to get our real name and address and
phone numbers this way.  

In our Al-Anon pamphlet S-66 F.A.Q. for Al-Anon Web Sites, on page 7 it
says............

Please observe all Al-Anoin's principles and Traditions on Web sites.
As "anonymity" is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions,
"personal anonymity is maintained on Al-Anon Web sites at all times.  An
Al-Anon Web site is a public medium that has the potintial for reaching
the broadest possible audience and therefore, reqwuires the same
safeguards that aare used at the level of press, radio, films, and TV.
A review of the Anonymity section in the Policy Digest part of
Al-Anon/Alateen Service Manual is also advised.

Information on our Web sites is to let people know how to get in touch
with us.  At the same time, in order to preserve personal anonymity,
full names are not given.

I know that if I put my full name into a the computer I can get a lot of
information about myself, age, spouce's name, kids names, income,
address, phone numbers.   I am just careful about this but it doesn't
matter to everyone.  I just think that it might limit members who might
want to do service for ASP but care about their anonymity.  Just a
thought.

Emee

> From: steve at serenitysys.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:11:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] ATTN: motion seconded....
> CC: businessmtg at asp-afg.org
> To: emee3x12 at hotmail.com
> 
> Hi ASPers,
> 
> I don't want to appear to be like I'm belittling Emee's concerns. I'm
very
> well aware of the concerns that some of our members have regarding
> anonymity, which is why we accept new members into ASP with
pseudonyms.
> However, when a member of Al-Anon gets involved in service it becomes
> difficult and often impossible to remain anonymous. It may help to
remember
> what our 11th & 12th Traditions say: 
> 
> 
> 
> 11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than
> promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of
press,
> radio, films, and TV. We need guard with special care the anonymity of
all
> AA members.
> 
> 12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever
> reminding us to place principles above personalities.
> 
> 
> 
> We need to maintain our PERSONAL ANONYMITY at the level of press,
radio,
> films, and TV. And we need to remember the spiritual foundation of
> anonymity within our fellowship. 
> 
> However, there is nothing in our Traditions that suggests we maintain
> personal anonymity amongst ourselves. 
> 
> The members of ASP give our officers considerable latitude in how they
> perform the duties we entrust them with. The corollary to our trusting
our
> trusted servants is that our trusted servants need to trust the
members,
> too. Our List Administrator enters into legal contracts that are
binding on
> ASP--we have a right to know who that person is. Our Secretary and
Greeter
> Chair are Alternates to the LA and are given full access to our server
by
> the List Administrator--we have a right to know who those people are.
Our
> Treasurer operates a bank account on our behalf, pays our bills and
> maintains our prudent reserve--we have a right to know who that is.
Our Web
> Master also has access to our server and is entrusted to develop and
> maintain our web site--we have a right to know who that person is.
Four of
> our Officers hold the keys to ASP--the username(s) and password(s) to
the
> ASP server and the fifth has all the money. We have a right to know
who
> these people, and a pseudonym or screen name does not tell us who they
are.
> 
> Of course, there may be some whose personal circumstances make
trusting the
> members with their real identity impractical. The same thing happens
on rare
> occasion in f2f Al-Anon. My ES&H is that those folks find other
avenues of
> service that allow them to maintain their personal anonymity. 
> 
> Thanks for listening.
> 
> Hugs,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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