[Businessmtg] KBDM

[Bubbe Turner]

Please state the item up for polling so that members can be clear of the
issue at hand.

Thanks,
BJ

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Laura M <lauram at asp-afg.org> wrote:

> Once again, we are NOT taking a vote. This is just a POLL to see if there
> is a motion to be made.
>
> If we do not have a motion, we can't vote.
>
> We do NOT have a motion on the floor at this time.
>
> I am calling for a POLL to see if there is consensus to make a motion. I
> have a feeling I know what the results will be , but I owe it to the group
> to make sure that I am working with facts and not feelings.
>
> Laura
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Biz -Pals,
> >
> > Sandie, I'm adamantly with Steve on this point of order.
> >
> > KBDM, Knowledge Based Decision Making, specifically calls for full and
> > informed discussion of a topic, and, only where there is a consensus
> formed
> > within the discussion is a motion drafted then a vote taken.
> >
> > Where NO consensus is formed within the discussion, NO motion is drafted,
> > and NO vote is taken. The chair simply announces that no consensus has
> been
> > formed so there is no motion on the floor, consequently no vote.
> >
> > This is not a minor point. Forcing a vote against the standing Group
> > Conscience on how we are to run our Business Meeting is inappropriate
> > within Al-Anon. I don't see how anyone could conclude that this current
> > Business Meeting has arrived at a consensus so it is entirely
> inappropriate
> > to form a motion on this suggested requirement to send topics to
> > newcomers. Time move on to another topic.
> >
> > Since there are only a few days in this month I strongly suggest that the
> > Chair and all members of this month's Business Meeting use the time
> before
> > the next Business Meeting (in September I believe) to inform themselves
> of
> > KBDM, how and why it works, and come back together on the same page.
> >
> > Any other choice threatens ASP and its many years of good will and
> > recovery. Let's not go there.
> >
> > Jerry
> > -
> >
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