[Businessmtg] KBDM

[Louise Evans_Salt]

I have no strong thoughts on the item under discussion at this time
Louise

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> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Bubbe Turner <bjqt1945 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please state the item up for polling so that members can be clear of the
> issue at hand.
> 
> Thanks,
> BJ
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Laura M <lauram at asp-afg.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Once again, we are NOT taking a vote. This is just a POLL to see if there
>> is a motion to be made.
>> 
>> If we do not have a motion, we can't vote.
>> 
>> We do NOT have a motion on the floor at this time.
>> 
>> I am calling for a POLL to see if there is consensus to make a motion. I
>> have a feeling I know what the results will be , but I owe it to the group
>> to make sure that I am working with facts and not feelings.
>> 
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Biz -Pals,
>>> 
>>> Sandie, I'm adamantly with Steve on this point of order.
>>> 
>>> KBDM, Knowledge Based Decision Making, specifically calls for full and
>>> informed discussion of a topic, and, only where there is a consensus
>> formed
>>> within the discussion is a motion drafted then a vote taken.
>>> 
>>> Where NO consensus is formed within the discussion, NO motion is drafted,
>>> and NO vote is taken. The chair simply announces that no consensus has
>> been
>>> formed so there is no motion on the floor, consequently no vote.
>>> 
>>> This is not a minor point. Forcing a vote against the standing Group
>>> Conscience on how we are to run our Business Meeting is inappropriate
>>> within Al-Anon. I don't see how anyone could conclude that this current
>>> Business Meeting has arrived at a consensus so it is entirely
>> inappropriate
>>> to form a motion on this suggested requirement to send topics to
>>> newcomers. Time move on to another topic.
>>> 
>>> Since there are only a few days in this month I strongly suggest that the
>>> Chair and all members of this month's Business Meeting use the time
>> before
>>> the next Business Meeting (in September I believe) to inform themselves
>> of
>>> KBDM, how and why it works, and come back together on the same page.
>>> 
>>> Any other choice threatens ASP and its many years of good will and
>>> recovery. Let's not go there.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> -
>>> 
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