[Businessmtg] Show of hands

Linda Murphy-knoll lovemyoceanlife at gmail.com
Fri Sep 23 07:57:15 PDT 2016


This seems very complicated and almost comical for what seemed a simple question. (sharing of course in the opinion phase) Maybe we all just need a meeting?

Hugs

Linda


> On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Bubbe Turner <bjqt1945 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Apryl, for your voice of reason.
> 
> BJ
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Apryl Schneider <aprylkae at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just so I'm clear and since no one in opposition has been able to put
>> together a simple list:
>> 
>> Those who are for the show of hands seem to be relatively split on whether
>> it should be done in straw poll fashion versus a website poll. The general
>> reason for the poll is to assist the chair in determining whether a
>> consensus has been reached. Since the goal of the BM is to reach
>> substantial unanimity this is one approach to simplifying the meetings'
>> ability to see when such has been reached.
>> 
>> Those against the idea of a show of hands are against it for a variety of
>> reasons ranging from objecting to the poll essentially being a secret
>> ballot to practically forecasting the destruction of ASP and its policies.
>> There is concern that offering up an internet poll is tantamount to asking
>> for a preemptive vote and that the results would not be kept as the next
>> poll would override the previous.
>> 
>> I'm still unclear on whether we are in the fact finding portion or opinion
>> portion as there has been a monster amount of opinion bandied about. In
>> order to have a healthy meeting, regardless of the subject matter, everyone
>> must be able to speak honestly. That becomes incredibly difficult when
>> one's opinions are attacked. There is a marked difference between debating
>> points and counterpoints and accusations. We've seen a TON of destructive
>> dialogue this meeting and frankly, it's been difficult to pick through to
>> to find the facts. I asked for a point and counterpoint list for the ease
>> of the rest of the participants in casting their votes. Sadly, this is a
>> fairly small agenda item and it's become something of an albatross.
>> 
>> To those BM participants from whom we've not heard, please please please
>> do NOT let the tone of this meeting stop you from participating. Your voice
>> counts as well.
>> 
>> Apryl
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