[Businessmtg] Analysis of Shares on Current Agenda Item - Woooo-Hoooo!

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Fri Sep 23 13:18:21 PDT 2016


Thanks Jerry, as I stated earlier it is very hard to get favourable to ALL I would suggest using the phrase with substantial unanimity.. 

Hugs

Sandie

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> On Sep 23, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Biz -Pals, 
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> No one else is doing it, so I just spent a bit over an hour reading through all shares since the beginning of the Business Meeting's discussion of the current agenda item. 
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> Current Agenda Item as Initially Stated on 9/19: 
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> "Requiring a show of hands poll before a motion is accepted in the business meeting (voting required)" 
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> There have been 77 shares according to my ASPBIZ file. Now the terminology shifted a bit from time to time so I had to subjectively shift some comments/votes a bit to fit into the categories I chose for my summary. The amazing thing to me is that much of the "drama", as one member labeled it, had nothing to do with the actual positions folks were taking or took at the end as the result of these exciting deliberations. That said, my summary: 
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> 77 Individual Comments: 
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> 47 contained comments, suggestions, opinions, etc., but no suggestion of favoring or rejecting the agenda item. 
>  5 were questions. 
>  3 I categorized as non-responsive, or I tossed because they changed their position later. 
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> Of those which expressed a general or specific position on the agenda item: 
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> 10 quickly agreed with a simple word or two. 
> 12 agreed with further commentary or input.* These 12 break down into 
>    5 favoring straight "Show of Hands" [yes or no] 
>    7 favoring straw poll [including the option for comments and check boxes reflecting degree of support]. 
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>  0 disagreed with the need for the chair to determine if there was a working consensus. 
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> Now isn't that a surprise! Even when we're almost in full agreement there is the opinion that there's strong disagreement here and there. Wrangling I think someone said. 
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> Under the circumstances I suggest the data shows there is a 2/3 consensus [10+5] for a straight up or down poll, and that there is a significant 1/3 minority [ 7 ] favoring a straw poll which includes the ability to include comment in some fashion. 
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> Considering that we all seem to agree that this "poll" will precede the forming of the official motion, is there a way to include the ability to comment in a way that would help in the wording of the motion that those who favor a simple up or down vote on the stated agenda item could accept? 
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> May I propose something along the lines of: 
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> "The Chair may call for a straw poll during the discussion of an Agenda Item, but before a motion is formed, in order to collect Committee Members' positions and input which may help form a motion that is acceptable to all." 
> [Boy, that's a mouthful, but you get the idea...] 
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> If it's not too late, I'd like to come out of this in darn-near 100% agreement. 
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> In service, 
> Jerry 
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