[Businessmtg] Analysis of Shares on Current Agenda Item - Woooo-Hoooo!

[Jane Anon]

Thanks for taking the time to do that Jerry.

I actually thought that the KBDM process meant that we should talk about an
issue and not express an opinion until it was time to vote. So... I didn't
express one per se other than to favor an online poll over emails as a
general rule.

I don't think s/he ever needed our permission, but since Laura has
requested the approval of the Business Meeting, I am, for the record, in
favor of the Secretary requesting a show of hands, and I think that s/he
should do it however s/he chooses, either by online poll or via email.

Jane

"It is easier to put on slippers than to carpet the world." ~Stuart Smalley

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:18 PM, List Administrator <
list_administrator at asp-afg.org> wrote:

> Thanks Jerry, as I stated earlier it is very hard to get favourable to ALL
> I would suggest using the phrase with substantial unanimity..
>
> Hugs
>
> Sandie
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 23, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Biz -Pals,
> >
> > No one else is doing it, so I just spent a bit over an hour reading
> through all shares since the beginning of the Business Meeting's discussion
> of the current agenda item.
> >
> > Current Agenda Item as Initially Stated on 9/19:
> >
> > "Requiring a show of hands poll before a motion is accepted in the
> business meeting (voting required)"
> >
> > There have been 77 shares according to my ASPBIZ file. Now the
> terminology shifted a bit from time to time so I had to subjectively shift
> some comments/votes a bit to fit into the categories I chose for my
> summary. The amazing thing to me is that much of the "drama", as one member
> labeled it, had nothing to do with the actual positions folks were taking
> or took at the end as the result of these exciting deliberations. That
> said, my summary:
> >
> > 77 Individual Comments:
> >
> > 47 contained comments, suggestions, opinions, etc., but no suggestion of
> favoring or rejecting the agenda item.
> >  5 were questions.
> >  3 I categorized as non-responsive, or I tossed because they changed
> their position later.
> >
> > Of those which expressed a general or specific position on the agenda
> item:
> >
> > 10 quickly agreed with a simple word or two.
> > 12 agreed with further commentary or input.* These 12 break down into
> >    5 favoring straight "Show of Hands" [yes or no]
> >    7 favoring straw poll [including the option for comments and check
> boxes reflecting degree of support].
> >
> >  0 disagreed with the need for the chair to determine if there was a
> working consensus.
> >
> > Now isn't that a surprise! Even when we're almost in full agreement
> there is the opinion that there's strong disagreement here and there.
> Wrangling I think someone said.
> >
> > Under the circumstances I suggest the data shows there is a 2/3
> consensus [10+5] for a straight up or down poll, and that there is a
> significant 1/3 minority [ 7 ] favoring a straw poll which includes the
> ability to include comment in some fashion.
> >
> > Considering that we all seem to agree that this "poll" will precede the
> forming of the official motion, is there a way to include the ability to
> comment in a way that would help in the wording of the motion that those
> who favor a simple up or down vote on the stated agenda item could accept?
> >
> > May I propose something along the lines of:
> >
> > "The Chair may call for a straw poll during the discussion of an Agenda
> Item, but before a motion is formed, in order to collect Committee Members'
> positions and input which may help form a motion that is acceptable to all."
> > [Boy, that's a mouthful, but you get the idea...]
> >
> > If it's not too late, I'd like to come out of this in darn-near 100%
> agreement.
> >
> > In service,
> > Jerry
> > -
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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