[Businessmtg] BM closing: Point of Order

[List Administrator]

The call for and accepting of resumes is not in any way part of a KBDM discussion.  This is not a KBDM discussion. The KBDM process is for discussing issues and is not part of the election process. 

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Sandie 


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> On Jul 28, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks.  This is Beverly.  Some people are new like myself to this
> meeting.  This is my second meeting.  There are certain founding policies
> that I have looked up.  And I would suggest others do the same.
> 
> Currently we are still in the discussion phase of the KBDM process of the
> original agenda, which is accepting resumes for positions.   There are no
> motions on the floor.  We have not entered into parliamentary phase.  We
> have an agenda.  We cannot arbitrarily change the agenda, because someone
> makes a motion.   We discuss one issue at time.
> 
> This process has been voted for and accepted.  Long time ago.
> 
> In due process, if the meeting runs out of time then the meeting is tabled
> to the next business meeting in September.
> 
> Section 7B1B of the KDBM process states all motions are out of order during
> the discussion phase.  We are always in discussion phase/KBDM, until we
> reach a transition phase of the *same agenda *that we started with.  The
> agenda was announced at the beginning of the meeting.
> 
> The process used for the business meeting at ASP is an application of the
> knowledge base decision making process as used by the WSO (World Service
> Office)of Alanon. The process that is outlined in our founding policies is
> the one that has been voted on and passed and used for our BM.
> 
> This process uses a blend of open discussion on a single topic or issue, on
> the original agenda, to reach a point where the key parts of the issue, on
> the original agenda, have been agreed-upon by a substantial majority of the
> participants.
> 
> As the meeting reaches agreement on each sub part of the issue, on the same
> agenda, the chair will post a notice  describing the sub issue and the
> agreements reached. And to note , the sub issue is to be part of the
> original agenda.  Once the meeting has agreed on all the sub issues, the
> meeting will shift to the more traditional parliamentary phase where
> motions are made.
> 
> It is important to note that the "KBDM" process is very time-consuming.
> It is not unusual for an issue to remain unresolved after one session of
> the business meeting. It is possible that many sessions may be required to
> develop a true consensus and agree to the various points that are key to
> the consensus. Because of this the KBDM is exceptionally appropriate for
> policy decisions, but not housekeeping issues.
> 
> Vll. B. 1. b.  " all motions are out of order during the KBDM phase of the
> group conscience. "
> 
> Vll. B.4. "If the meeting runs out of time, then the issue is tabled for a
> future meeting. "
> 
> In lieu of what is being presented at this meeting, I would like to know
> Sandie, meant kindly and gently, in appreciation of your hard work, why are
> you allowing this meeting stray from what is not on the agenda?  And to
> note, this is the second time I have called for a point of order in this
> meeting.
> 
> As a trusted servant isn't it part of your responsibility in your job
> description as list person, realizing of course you are filling two
> positions here, secretary and list person, to keep the meeting on track?
> To help all of the members to follow the guidelines which have been set up,
> by founding policies that have been voted on and accepted?  Since you have
> accepted responsibility for both of these positions, don't you have a
> responsibility to act in the best interest of staying on track with the
> original agenda for the sake of the group in both of these positions, List
> and secretary person?  Is this is too much for you to do?
> 
> Thank you all for your consideration in the matter of unity for our group.
> 
> Peace and hugs.
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