[Businessmtg] Results of the poll

[Jane Anon]

Steve,

I will have to look it up if you want documentation, but we had a
discussion some time ago in the SC (I believe) about how if someone doesn't
vote, it is as though s/he has left the room, so s/he isn't counted in the
totals. ​

There is always an option to abstain, so if no one chooses that option, I
will say "no abstentions." I don't think those who elect not to vote at all
should be counted because they have effectively left the meeting.

Now, if we want to include those who are included in the business meeting
but choose not to vote, that's fine, but then before posting the result, I
will need an updated count of who is still receiving the emails and
therefore counted as participating.


Jane

"It is easier to put on slippers than to carpet the world." ~Stuart Smalley

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:43 AM, List Administrator <
list_administrator at asp-afg.org> wrote:

> Please note 2-3 members have left the meeting.
>
> Sandie
> List Administrator
> Please join us at Al-Anon's Sixth International Convention
>
>
> http://www.al-anoninternationalconvention.org/sixthInternational.html
>
>
> > On May 18, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jane,
> >
> > Please note that the group conscience of ASP REQUIRES "substantial
> unanimity
> > of subscribed membership of Business Committee".
> >
> > In other words,  a motion at ASP requires an affirmative vote by
> substantial
> > unanimity of EVERYONE in the meeting. BTW, we did this intentionally to
> > ensure that the group conscience of ASP follows Al-Anon principles as
> much
> > as possible by requiring a true substantial unanimity of everyone in the
> > room.
> >
> > Therefore, the results of the poll on the motion should NOT be reported
> as
> > "all in favor" because that was not true. There are 36 members of the
> > Business Meeting, therefore the results of the poll should be reported
> as:
> >
> > For:        34
> > Against:    0
> > Abstain:    0
> > No vote:    2
> >
> > True, it doesn't change the results in this case, but it's still
> important
> > to count every member's vote (or non-vote) according to the group
> > conscience. I addressed this issue before when the results of a poll were
> > reported as "Passed by a landslide" when in fact, the motion passed by
> the
> > slimmest of margins.
> >
> > Hugs,
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Businessmtg
> > [mailto:businessmtg-bounces+steve=serenitysys.com at asp-afg.org] On
> Behalf Of
> > Jane Anon
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
> > To: Steve - SC
> > Cc: ASP Business
> > Subject: [Businessmtg] Results of the poll
> >
> > The ASP Secretary has asked that I announce the results of the poll.
> >
> > Motion: "That a temporary committee be formed, answerable to the Business
> > Committee, to reassess ASP's newcomer-related materials and how ASP could
> > better serve newcomer needs."
> >
> > 34 votes were recorded, all in favor. No abstentions.
> >
> > Jane
> >
> >
> >
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