[Businessmtg] FW: Recent discussions of steering committee
Steve Rankin
steve at serenitysys.com
Wed May 24 19:59:40 PDT 2017
Hi folks,
I'm still trying to determine if Sandie's note to the Business Meeting was the official Steering Committee report or not, and to determine if some of the statements in the "report" were representative of the Steering Committee or of the List Administrator.
Hugs,
Steve
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From: Steve Rankin [mailto:steve at serenitysys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:48 AM
To: 'ASP Business'
Subject: RE: [Businessmtg] Recent discussions of steering committee
Sandie,
An interesting response, but unfortunately it did nothing to answer my questions.
I'll respond more directly to this note later, but first I'd appreciate answers to my questions.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Businessmtg [mailto:businessmtg-bounces+steve=serenitysys.com at asp-afg.org] On Behalf Of List Administrator
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:29 AM
To: Steve - SC
Cc: ASP Business
Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Recent discussions of steering committee
Steve in answer to your questions. Sorry I was a little short yesterday in my response but we had a crises on our hands - as I reported to the Steering Committee I discovered that there were 278 emails that had been sent to the Greeter mailbox that had been ignored. We had really one Greeter operating and she did not realize that no one else was answering emails.
That took precedence yesterday.. our volunteers responded to all 278 emails yesterday and have been subscribing new members. We have also signed up 6/7 new Greeters.
Why did this happen? You stated very strongly in the Steering Committee that the Greeter Chair was not my subordinate and that what she did was not my business.,
If this body does not think I am doing my job - I am more than willing to step down.
Sandie
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> On May 23, 2017, at 2:31 AM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:
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> I thought that I’d asked a couple of simple & straightforward questions. Unfortunately, I don’t understand your answer, or what it has to do with my questions.
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> I guess I’ll have to repeat my questions:
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> 1. Is this the official Steering Committee report?
No - there is no official Steering Committee report. I didn't see any one else jumping up to write it. A couple members of the Steering Comittee did write in.,
Further there has never been a report from the Steering Committee to the Business Meeting..
As Jane put it if someone did not agree with the decision they did not voice it.
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> 2. When you say "decision to . . ." in your note, or say that some action is being taken, or present something as factual, does that mean the Steering Committee reached a consensus or group conscience on that item?
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Did the Steering Committee come to a consensus on placing you in moderated status? More than 1/2 requested that you be moderated due to your bullying. I made a autonomous decision to place you in moderated status and you are on moderated status in this Business Meeting due to your behavior. The Secretary at the time made the decsion.
Members of the Steering Committee have been openly chastised for not following your "rules" both in the Steering Committee and in the Business Meeting.
We just went through a issue with KBDM. This meeting has never had a discussion using KBDM. Later today or tomorrow we will start the next discussion using KBDM.,
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> From: List Administrator [mailto:list_administrator at asp-afg.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:42 PM
> To: Steve Rankin
> Cc: ASP Business
> Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Recent discussions of steering committee
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> I believe the word is discussion.
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> Sandie
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> On May 22, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:
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> Sandie,
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> I'm curious about how you've worded some of your report, so I'd like
> to ask a couple of questions:
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> 1. Is this the official Steering Committee report to the Business Meeting?
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> 2. When you say "decision to . . ." and other items in the report
> (items #1, #3, #4, #4 (again) and #6) does that mean the Steering
> Committee reached a consensus and group conscience?
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> Thanks & hugs,
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Businessmtg
> [mailto:businessmtg-bounces+steve=serenitysys.com at asp-afg.org] On
> Behalf Of List Administrator
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:48 PM
> To: Steve - SC
> Cc: ASP Business
> Subject: [Businessmtg] Recent discussions of steering committee
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> As I have stated previously there has never been a report to the
> Buisness Meeting from either the Treasurer or the actions of the Sterring Committee.
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> The following are some of the most recent discussions of the steering
> committee.
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> 1). Discussion on whether a specific item needed to be placed on the
> Business Meeting agenda. (A request for a discussion on religious
> references in the meeting). Decision to monitor discussion for religous references.
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> 2). Discussion with the Treasurer and the difficulties of opening a
> new Bank Account.(Ongoing and still looking for for answers on opening
> a new Bank Account)
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> 3). Member of the steering committee placed on moderated status due
> to overstepping bounds and bullying and or flaming other members on
> the SC and in the Business Meeting (Ongoing discussion),
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> 4) Motion on the floor of the Steering Committee.
> I make a motion for the immediate dismissal of Steve from the Steering
> Committee and the ASP group. This will need a second, and a vote. This
> motion has been seconded and there have been ongoing discussions.
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> 4). Discussion on website maintenance, responsibilities of the
> webmaster, copyright infringements. Discussion on website on what was
> approved and what was not approved. (Next item on agenda).
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> 5). Discussion on Discrepanices in Greeter Letter #2. (Ongoing)
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> 6). Discussion on the use of reply all and emails threads (piggy
> backing) in the recovery meeting. This is being closely monitored and
> emails are being sent out by the List Administrator.,
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> Sandie
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