[Businessmtg] Business Meeting

[Bubbe Turner]

This is what I question, Sandie.

Apparently "satisfaction" comes before experience at ASP.  I do question
that (but not Kristen, this isn't directed at her):  I question the
qualifications for service at ASP.  By this fore mentioned qualification a
lot of qualified and knowledgeable people are left out of service here.  I
have never experienced this sort of control in f2f or OL.

Hi Barbara,

The ASP group conscience states that 1 year of service to ASP  is required
to serve as an officer.

Contrary to popular opinion, most of our group consciences and policies are
written to avoid micromanaging. Hence, our group conscience doesn't say
service in Position A, B, or C qualifies but service in Position D does not.
Service is service. So anyone having the requisite time serving ASP would
meet our service requirement.

After observing this process for over 20 years, I've noticed that a member
serving on a special committee, such as our Newcomer Committee, is likely to
become far more exposed to discussion ASP policies & procedures than either
a Greeter or Daily Chair would in their service.

The bottom line is that Kristen has not only served ASP in roles that
satisfy the group conscience, it is my personal opinion that she has
benefited from more opportunities to grow and learn about ASP structure,
policies and procedures on the Newcomer Committee than a member serving as a
Greeter or Daily Chair. In other words, I would not discount service on a
committee, especially a committee that has spent the kind of quality time
that the Newcomers Committee has spent on these issues.

Hopefully, that clears the waters on this issue.

Hugs,
Steve

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I understand the frustration Barbara, really I do.  Would you please share
> where it is in Steve's post that it says that?
> Thanks.
>
> Peace.
>
> Beverly
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:43 PM Bubbe Turner <bjqt1945 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But just today, Steve said it was, Beverly.  This is why I am so confused.
>> One person says one thing, another says the opposite.  What the hell is
>> the
>> right way of requirements here at ASP????
>>
>> In the 20 years experience I have had with OL meetings (working with WSO
>> to
>> set up guidelines ages ago which they have used for OL meetings per Rik),
>> I
>> have never seen such a mess in an OL business group as I have at ASP.  I
>> am
>> aware of some of the background via OLAIS ages ago but I do not understand
>> the furtherance of this psychobabble of requirements.  What happened to
>> straight talk and Al-Anon principles?
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All.  Participation and or being in the Business Meeting is *not
>> > *considered
>> > service and may not be considered as such.
>> >
>> > Thank you for your consideration.
>> >
>> > Peace and hugs,
>> > Beverly
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