[Businessmtg] Business Meeting

[Bubbe Turner]

Acception of anyone in service before those with qualifications and
experience, Beverly.


On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Barbara.  This is Beverly.   I don't understand what you mean here,
> "satisfaction comes before experience at ASP".  Can you explain a little
> more?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM Bubbe Turner <bjqt1945 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is what I question, Sandie.
>>
>> Apparently "satisfaction" comes before experience at ASP.  I do question
>> that (but not Kristen, this isn't directed at her):  I question the
>> qualifications for service at ASP.  By this fore mentioned qualification a
>> lot of qualified and knowledgeable people are left out of service here.  I
>> have never experienced this sort of control in f2f or OL.
>>
>> Hi Barbara,
>>
>> The ASP group conscience states that 1 year of service to ASP  is required
>> to serve as an officer.
>>
>> Contrary to popular opinion, most of our group consciences and policies
>> are
>> written to avoid micromanaging. Hence, our group conscience doesn't say
>> service in Position A, B, or C qualifies but service in Position D does
>> not.
>> Service is service. So anyone having the requisite time serving ASP would
>> meet our service requirement.
>>
>> After observing this process for over 20 years, I've noticed that a member
>> serving on a special committee, such as our Newcomer Committee, is likely
>> to
>> become far more exposed to discussion ASP policies & procedures than
>> either
>> a Greeter or Daily Chair would in their service.
>>
>> The bottom line is that Kristen has not only served ASP in roles that
>> satisfy the group conscience, it is my personal opinion that she has
>> benefited from more opportunities to grow and learn about ASP structure,
>> policies and procedures on the Newcomer Committee than a member serving
>> as a
>> Greeter or Daily Chair. In other words, I would not discount service on a
>> committee, especially a committee that has spent the kind of quality time
>> that the Newcomers Committee has spent on these issues.
>>
>> Hopefully, that clears the waters on this issue.
>>
>> Hugs,
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I understand the frustration Barbara, really I do.  Would you please
>> share
>> > where it is in Steve's post that it says that?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Peace.
>> >
>> > Beverly
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:43 PM Bubbe Turner <bjqt1945 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> But just today, Steve said it was, Beverly.  This is why I am so
>> confused.
>> >> One person says one thing, another says the opposite.  What the hell is
>> >> the
>> >> right way of requirements here at ASP????
>> >>
>> >> In the 20 years experience I have had with OL meetings (working with
>> WSO
>> >> to
>> >> set up guidelines ages ago which they have used for OL meetings per
>> Rik),
>> >> I
>> >> have never seen such a mess in an OL business group as I have at ASP.
>> I
>> >> am
>> >> aware of some of the background via OLAIS ages ago but I do not
>> understand
>> >> the furtherance of this psychobabble of requirements.  What happened to
>> >> straight talk and Al-Anon principles?
>> >>
>> >> BJ
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Sandie Parkker <
>> sandieparkker at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi All.  Participation and or being in the Business Meeting is *not
>> >> > *considered
>> >> > service and may not be considered as such.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for your consideration.
>> >> >
>> >> > Peace and hugs,
>> >> > Beverly
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