[Businessmtg] Suggest a Different Motion in Search of Unity

[Jerry]

Robert's Rules only require that the person who made the motion makes a request withdraw or amend it. It would not need passed before amendment when requested by the originator.

Robert's Rules:

"In a deliberative assembly, the motion to request for permission to withdraw or modify a motion is made if the maker of the motion wishes to withdraw or change it after it has been stated by the chair." (Wikipedia)

It would require a second, but the original seconder has no inherent right to block the withdrawal or amended motion.

Jane would have to make the request under our circumstances. [In an in-person body, another could make the request of the original maker had the floor. In such a case no second would be necessary.] No debate permitted. Majority vote required to allow withdrawal or modification.

(There is a reason I don't love Robert's Rules.)

If Jane can see her way to withdrawing this motion and submitting a new motion such as I suggested, or to amend her motion similarly we may be able to heal this wound.

 Jerry
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On October 18, 2017, at 3:09 PM, List Administrator <list_administrator at asp-afg.org> wrote:

Thank you Jerry, it does sound like a reasonable solution. However, the existing motion can only be withdrawn by Jane and Barbara.  

To amend the existing motion on the table, this motion would first have to be passed prior to amending it. 


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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Biz-Pals,
> 
> Old Finnish joke:
> 
> Ole and Eino were sitting out by the railroad tracks.
> Ole noticed a big steam locomotive roaring toward them in the distance. Eino pointed out a long freight train speeding toward them from the other direction.
> So Ole asks Eino, "What you tink, Eino?"
> Eino draws a puff from his pipe and says, "I tink dats one hellova way ta run a railroad."
> 
> Sounds familiar considering our circumstances.
> 
> In search of a reasonable way to find Unity I'd like to hear from others alternatives they may have to the current train wreck we are experiencing. We all must know there has to be a better way than a black or white forced solution.
> 
> Here's my initial suggestion: The person who made the currently-announced motion withdraws their motion, then makes a motion similar to the following:
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> "That the ASP website, as currently posted, be temporarily accepted while the Steering Committee, the Business Committee, and/or other created committees carefully review the differences between the "old" group conscience approved web content and the "new" posted content for future deliberations on final wording."
> 
> Most of the improvements Jane made will likely survive. The specific concerns of other's will be addressed and resolved. In time we would end up with web content based on unity and agreement.
> 
> Anyway, that's my first shot at this ongoing problem.
> 
> Jerry
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