[Businessmtg] Suggest a Different Motion in Search of Unity

[Steve Rankin]

Sandie, 

You said . . . " To amend the existing motion on the table, this motion
would first have to be passed prior to amending it."

This is not correct. 

Amendments to motions are accepted, or not, by the mover and seconder BEFORE
the motion goes to a vote to be passed, or not. 

Besides, I still need to point out that Jane has not posted her "motion" to
the Business Meeting. Quoting the text of what Jane INTENDED to be a motion
in the may agenda does not make it a motion. Neither does saying that Jane
made a motion, when in fact she has not made a motion. Since Jane has not
yet made a motion to the BM, there is still no motion for Barbara to second.


The bottom line is that we don't get to change the record of what happened
in a meeting. What happened is what happened, and what didn't happen didn't
happen. That's it. Very simple and straight forward. 

Jane could have easily resolved this issue in the last few days by
presenting her motion to the BM as a motion. Of course, there was still the
sticking point of the fact that we were (are?) still in the KBDM process and
therefore ALL motions are out of order. 

Steve



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Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Suggest a Different Motion in Search of Unity

Thank you Jerry, it does sound like a reasonable solution. However, the
existing motion can only be withdrawn by Jane and Barbara.  

To amend the existing motion on the table, this motion would first have to
be passed prior to amending it. 


Sandie 


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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Biz-Pals,
> 
> Old Finnish joke:
> 
> Ole and Eino were sitting out by the railroad tracks.
> Ole noticed a big steam locomotive roaring toward them in the distance.
Eino pointed out a long freight train speeding toward them from the other
direction.
> So Ole asks Eino, "What you tink, Eino?"
> Eino draws a puff from his pipe and says, "I tink dats one hellova way ta
run a railroad."
> 
> Sounds familiar considering our circumstances.
> 
> In search of a reasonable way to find Unity I'd like to hear from others
alternatives they may have to the current train wreck we are experiencing.
We all must know there has to be a better way than a black or white forced
solution.
> 
> Here's my initial suggestion: The person who made the currently-announced
motion withdraws their motion, then makes a motion similar to the following:
> 
> "That the ASP website, as currently posted, be temporarily accepted while
the Steering Committee, the Business Committee, and/or other created
committees carefully review the differences between the "old" group
conscience approved web content and the "new" posted content for future
deliberations on final wording."
> 
> Most of the improvements Jane made will likely survive. The specific
concerns of other's will be addressed and resolved. In time we would end up
with web content based on unity and agreement.
> 
> Anyway, that's my first shot at this ongoing problem.
> 
> Jerry
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> 
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> 
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