[Businessmtg] FW: Secretary and Webmaster Positions

[Steve Rankin]

Hi ASPers,

Back in 2006, we discussed the issues involved in what was to be our new
service structure after I turned ASP over to the membership to run.  Over
the course of that discussion, I developed a feeling for the consensus of
the group and posted what I believed to be that consensus on my ASP website.
We talked about it some more and no changes were made, so we voted on it.
It passed unanimously.
The only real difference now is that we officially operate under the KBDM
process.  OK, but what we did in 2006 was very similar to the our KBDM
process.  
Please note that the Steering Committee recommended a new version of Motion
#4, which contained several changes.  We did not recommend a series of
individual changes.  
In the May Business Meeting we tried to discuss the entire revised motion.
Unfortunately, that didn't work very well, especially when some members
introduced discussion that wasn't on topic.  
For this month's Business Meeting we have broken the proposed update into
sections - for the purpose of discussion.  
If you haven't already familiarized yourself with our KBDM process, please
do so now, as this process defines how we reach a group conscience in ASP.
http://asp-afg.org/members/kbdm/
Please note the following in particular where it talks about how an issue
may contain several points and how those points may be discussed and
resolved individually as parts of the overall issue:
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ASP's Knowledge Based Decision Making process, in part:
"B. The Knowledge Based Decision Making process begins
    1. Open discussion of issue or topic.
        a. Discussions of issues or topic not relative are not appropriate.
        b. All motions are out of order during the KBDM phase of the group
conscience.
    2. When agreement is reached on a point of the issue, the Chair will
post a note to the meeting stating the point and the nature of the agreement
reached.
        a. When subsequent agreements are reached on other points of the
issue being discussed, the Chair will repost the note, appending simple
descriptions the new agreements reached.
    3. If the meeting runs out of time, then the issue is tabled for a
future meeting.
        a. Other issues may be a higher priority and therefore placed higher
on the next meeting's agenda.
        b. There is no presumption that an issue will be resolved within any
time frame.
    4. When agreement is reached on all points of the issue, the Chair will
repost the note describing all the agreements reached on each sub-part of
the issue, and note that there appears to be agreement on the entire issue."
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The point is that we are discussing individual sections, or points, in the
overall updating of Motion #4.  After we have reached a consensus on each of
the individual points, then we will move on to the formal process of
adopting a new group conscience.  There is no plan on adopting any part of
this update individually or before any other part.  I hope everyone
understands that.
Much like we did back in 2006, I will post what appears to be the working
consensus as it develops.  
In other words, individual points like rolling the Web Master in to the
Secretary position, and creating the new Group Rep position will all be part
of one vote on a new motion that will replace Motion #4.  
Hugs,
Steve