[Businessmtg] Founders

[Diane Miller]

Brilliant idea, allowing the Founders to assist as needed. I agree 100%.
Diane M

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:22 AM Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:

> Biz-Pals,
>
> While "there are no 'musts' in Al-Anon" there are some here at ASP.
> Certain tasks have to be performed in this electronic medium in a
> reasonable timeframe or things can fall apart fairly quickly.
>
> We have found over recent years that keeping the Steering Committee (SC)
> roles filled has been/is problematic. This leaves gaps which need filled or
> things don't get done - or, rather, they DO get done, but not according to
> how our Service Structure says they should. My experience is that our SC
> members often end up doing multiple jobs to keep ASP functioning.
>
> As it turns out, this process of work-arounds is not 'blessed' by our
> Group Conscience which is very specific about who does what and who can
> back up whom. What I believe Steve is asking us to think about is adding
> more flexibility to our structure.
>
> Because our two Founder positions have by far the most ASP service
> experience it's perhaps natural to suggest we be specific in granting to
> them the ability to temporarily replace missing trusted servants or do the
> odd jobs that might go undone around here.
>
> When I was List Administrator I occasionally asked other SC members to
> take on tasks which were outside their assigned service structure duties. I
> felt I had to in order to keep things running - either that or do them
> myself (which, trust me, can get to be messy.)
>
> So I suggest we make official what has by necessity been going on for some
> time anyway. The question then becomes, for me:
>
> A) should we be specific with language which includes granting only our
> two Founder positions, at the SC's request, the ability to temporarily hold
> two (or more?) SC seats and sets of duties at one time, or
>
> B) might we be less specific by acknowledging that Concept of Service #3
> already grants our SC trusted servants this flexibility. [C3: "The right of
> decision makes effective leadership possible." ]?
>
> I know and trust that Steve and Anne are up to the job, but what about ASP
> in 10 or 20 years? I think we might be better served by setting in place
> additional language which acts as an umbrella policy for all SC trusted
> servants' duties such as, "When there are vacancies on the Steering
> Committee the duties normally assigned to that vacated position are to be
> assigned by the SC to another SC member, or, when necessary, to another
> experienced ASP member, that member becoming a temporary SC member with
> voice and vote."
>
> Something like that should cover just about any situation which might show
> up in the many years ahead of us.
>
> Enough thinking for today. I have to get ready for my camping trip along
> the wild and windy southern shores of Gitche Gumee. [Have tent, will travel]
>
> In service,
> Jerry
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>
>
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>
> On July 29, 2021, at 4:14 AM, Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com> wrote:
>
> Hi ASPers,
>
>
>
> OK, time is up for discussing the section on rolling the Web Master duties
> into the Secretary position.  Please do not post any other discussion on
> this portion of the Motion #4 update topic.
>
>
>
> We are now going to spend the rest of the few days left in the month
> discussing the recommendation of allowing the Steering Committee to request
> a/the Founder(s) to perform some task or to [temporarily] perform the
> duties
> of a trusted servant.
>
>
>
> AND
>
>
>
> We are also going to receive an updated Treasurer's Report from Mary, our
> ASP Treasurer.
>
>
>
> Yes, this is unusual to entertain 2 discussions at the same time, but we
> discussed this in a Zoom Steering Committee meeting on Sunday afternoon and
> decided it was the best alternative in the few days left in the month.
>
>
>
> Please note - there seems to have been considerable confusion on this
> section in the last Business Meeting.  This is NOT about assigning any
> specific duties to the Founders as a part of the Founder's role.  This is
> about allowing the Steering Committee to request one or both of the
> Founders
> to perform some task on behalf of the Steering Committee or ASP.
>
>
>
> For example, when Jerry was elected List Administrator the previous List
> Administrator departed abruptly and left Jerry holding the bag before he'd
> even learned how to log into the server.  Jerry asked me to assist and
> teach
> him the nuts and bolts of the List Administrator job.
>
>
>
> What we are looking at is to simply to officially allow the Steering
> Committee to ask the Founders to do something more than exercise their
> voice
> and vote - something that the elected members of the Steering Committee
> would like them to do.  This is not in place of electing a member of the
> Steering Committee, although it could be performing the duties of a vacant
> position until a new member is elected to that position.
>
>
>
> Hugs,
>
> Steve
>
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