[Businessmtg] Alternate path to Steering Committee service

Lynne lynne at asp-afg.org
Tue Mar 21 14:45:53 PDT 2023 


Hi Denise,

We have until the end of the day today to discuss the motion before 
moving to the next step.

Hugs,

Lynne

On 2023-03-21 14:32, DENISE ONEIL wrote:

> Good evening,
> 
> I am wondering when the BM will move forward on the motion that was 
> brought forth and seconded?   I continue to support the original motion 
> and wonder where, what I view as mistrust, is coming from.  I assume 
> ASP uses the Concepts of Service just like all other Al-Anon meetings.  
>  Concept 3!  "The right of decision makes effective leadership possible 
> ".  How Al-Anon Works 2008 edition pages 131-132 If I'm off base here, 
> please let me know.  I hope we can move forward.
> Respectfully and in program,
> Denise O
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> From: Businessmtg <businessmtg-bounces+irish0806=msn.com at asp-afg.org> 
> on behalf of Lynne <lynne at asp-afg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:36:11 AM
> To: irish0806 at msn.com <irish0806 at msn.com>
> Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Alternate path to Steering Committee service
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> What is the reasoning behind adding to this motion that the steering 
> committee is only authorized to do this if there is vacancy for more 
> than 2 business meetings?
> 
> I know that we, the SC, brought this to the BM because we are in an 
> emergency type situation with our current staffing. Considering that 
> ASP has a chronic inability to fully staff the SC, why would you want 
> to limit a tool in the toolbox? Say that when there is a vacancy, two 
> people apply - one who meets the ASP service requirements and one who 
> doesn't, but has been recommended unanimously by the SC to be 
> considered. The BM would then consider both applications and make an 
> informed decision.
> 
> I guess I don't like the idea of putting it into the motion that the 
> steering committee has to be short handed for months before this tool 
> would be authorized. I do feel that is putting an unfair burden on our 
> future elected trusted servants.
> 
> Hugs,
> Lynne
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Jerry <logmark at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Biz-Pals,
>> 
>> I offer the following amendment to the motion which covers the content 
>> of the original motion in a form which clarifies when this procedure 
>> would become authorized:
>> 
>> "When any Steering Committee (SC) seat remains unfilled for lack of 
>> qualified volunteers for two (2) succeeding Business Meetings, resumes 
>> for vacancies will be accepted from volunteers who do not meet ASP's 
>> requirements for prior ASP membership or service. Should such 
>> volunteers stand for ASP service positions:
>> * The SC will interview and vet said volunteers as it sees fit, and 
>> recommend all candidates who are approved by a unanimous SC vote to 
>> the Business Meeting for resume review and voting.
>> * All other requirements and procedures involving the election of 
>> officers by the members in the Business Meeting apply."
>> 
>> (end of suggestion)
>> - - - - -
>> 
>> MY NOTES:
>> Three of the current motion's bullet points would be made redundant or 
>> become unnecessary:
>> 
>> * "That the Steering Committee (SC) is authorized to solicit 
>> volunteers for service on the SC,"
>> [because every ASP member is already able to communicate with other 
>> ASP members to suggest that they stand for office (SC members 
>> included) no authorization is required];
>> 
>> * "That the SC may recommend candidates to the BM by unanimous 
>> vote..." [because this is covered in bullet #1 of the suggested 
>> amended motion.]; and
>> 
>> * "That candidates recommended by the SC may not meet ASP requirements 
>> for prior membership or service ...." [because this is covered in the 
>> text of the suggested amended motion.]
>> 
>> The suggested text would add a two BM window for qualified volunteers 
>> to stand for any vacancies. I don't feel this period would place undue 
>> burdens on other SC members. I do think that it would be prudent to 
>> have this retroactive so any approved motion would enact these 
>> procedures immediately.
>> 
>> In service,
>> Jerry
>> -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On March 8, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Lynne <lynne at asp-afg.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> ASP is operating with only one of five elected trusted servant 
>> positions
>> filled by an elected member. The Founders, Anne and Steve, are 
>> pitching
>> in to help keep ASP running. However, this means that Anne is doing
>> double duty as the Greeter Chair and the Group Representative and I am
>> doing double duty as the List Administrator and the Secretary, and 
>> Steve
>> is filling in as the Treasurer. There has also been a chronic 
>> inability
>> for ASP to have a full slate of elected Steering Committee members. 
>> All
>> of this goes against several Al anon principles listed below. We
>> urgently need new tools to increase the pool of eligible applicants to
>> the steering committee. We are getting burnt out doing all of these 
>> jobs
>> with just the three of us.
>> 
>> Tradition 7: Every group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining
>> outside contributions.
>> Concept 4: Participation is the key to harmony.
>> Concept 10: Service responsibility is balanced by carefully defined
>> service authority and double-headed management is avoided.
>> 
>> The current requirements for election to the Steering Committee is one
>> year's prior service at ASP in an appointed service position (Daily
>> Chair, Greeter, Recording Secretary). Candidates are elected by the
>> membership of the Business Meeting and must not be a member of AA.
>> 
>> The Steering Committee previously brought a topic to the business
>> meeting in January about lowering the ASP service requirement for the
>> Steering Committee positions from 1 year to 6 months. That is not 
>> being
>> discussed now (it will be discussed later in this meeting if there is
>> time), but is just an example of ways that we are trying to make 
>> service
>> on the Steering Committee more accessible to widen the pool of 
>> eligible
>> applicants.
>> 
>> What we are proposing now is that the Business Meeting give the 
>> Steering
>> Committee the authority to waive the ASP service requirement on a
>> case-by-case basis. What that means in practice is that if someone is
>> interested in applying to serve in one of the Steering Committee
>> positions, but that person does not meet the current ASP service
>> requirements, the Steering Committee could decide to interview that
>> candidate via a Zoom call to discuss the position and their previous 
>> Al
>> anon and ASP service. If the Steering Committee UNANIMOUSLY agrees, we
>> would bring the application to the next Business Meeting for
>> consideration. The Business Meeting would still elect all Steering
>> Committee members. If the Steering Committee does not unanimously 
>> agree
>> to support waiving the ASP service requirement, then that candidate
>> would still be able to apply for the position once they have acquired
>> that ASP service experience.
>> 
>> The discussion of this topic is now open.
>> 
>> Hugs,
>> 
>> Lynne
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