[Businessmtg] Fwd: Opportunities to grow
Iphigenia Yiacas
yiacas at gmail.com
Sun Jan 28 03:35:22 PST 2024
Hi,
I'd like to see this on an upcoming business meeting agenda. I like the
idea of knowing about open online workshops.
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 4:08 AM Steve Rankin via Businessmtg <
businessmtg at asp-afg.org> wrote:
> Hi Tori,
>
> I'm sorry, I misunderstood. None the less, my thoughts still stand.
>
> As for ASP announcing events hosted by other Al-Anon groups and service
> entities? The good news today is that there are many online events similar
> to the face-to-face events that have been around for decades. However,
> unlike the face-to-face events which tend to have a natural geographic
> filter, online events don't have any filters. The result is that local f2f
> meetings post flyers and make announcements of LOCAL events while ignoring
> distant events, even if they happen to know about them. If we started
> announcing online events, ASP could be flooded with announcements, which
> tends to segue into other unwarranted posts.
>
> It also begs the question of who is authorized to post announcements in
> the ASP recovery meeting?
> * Regular members? That is easy, but it also gets out of control
> easily.
> * Steering Committee? That would solve the issue of inappropriate
> posting, however it also creates another layer of work for the SC. . .
> vetting events (not all events are actually Al-Anon), how much info to
> include, and fielding questions about events from members, etc.
> * Website. Once upon a time back in the very early days of ASP, we
> maintained a bulletin board called "What's New" where we posted info about
> ASP and events. Naturally, it was a bit of work to maintain, so it quickly
> faded away. That could work today, however, considering the plethora of
> online events in today's world, it would take a lot of work to maintain.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see the GEA hosting some recovery-oriented events in
> addition to their service events. Likewise, our District could do the same
> sort of thing just like my District did back in the 80's - without the
> potluck, though. 😊 If so, then those would be naturals for us to
> announce because of our relationship to the District and GEA.
>
> Love and SERENITY,
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Businessmtg On Behalf Of Tori Sciacca via Businessmtg
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 9:43 PM
> To: steve at serenitysys.com
> Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> Subject: [Businessmtg] Fwd: Opportunities to grow
>
> Hello;
> I would be attending this event from my own zoom account, using the link
> provided.
> It is an Open Event. An open invitation.
> I’m not asking ASP to host an event I’m asking that we inform our
> membership of events. There are so many who could benefit. So many who
> don’t know these events exist.
>
> Tori 👩🏻🌾🧑🏽🍳🚍⚓️🇺🇸
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Steve Rankin via Businessmtg <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> > Date: January 27, 2024 at 11:25:19 PM CST
> > To: Tori1ofGodsKids at yahoo.com
> > Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Opportunities to grow
> > Reply-To: Steve Rankin <steve at serenitysys.com>
> >
> > Hi Tori,
> >
> > Thanks! This MIGHT be something that we could do. There are some
> issues that would need to be addressed, such as:
> >
> > 1. Cost #1. Does our current account with Zoom allow us to hold a
> "meeting" with a group larger than our Steering Committee? I'm guessing
> that we would need to make changes to our Zoom account, which would
> probably incur additional expenses to ASP. Anne would know more about this
> than I do as she is the one that set up our Zoom account and knows about
> that stuff.
> >
> > 2. Cost #2. Once we knew about the financial impact(s), we could
> discuss things like (a) number of members participating, (b) frequency
> (monthly, quarterly, ?). Going back to when I was a District Rep, my
> District held speaker potlucks randomly. They were randomly successful, so
> I upped the ante and made them monthly. Within 3 months, attendance went
> from 20-30 to over 100. My gut feeling is that ASP might see 50-100 ASP
> members attend.
> >
> > 3. Cost #3. Do we limit participation to ASP or not? Obviously, this
> needs to be discussed in the Business Meeting. The BM may decide to limit
> attendance, or to give that decision authority to the Steering Committee,
> or to . . . ???
> >
> > 4. Cost #4. Does ASP absorb this cost into our annual budget? Or do
> we develop a way of passing the basket? Or do we simply request a
> donation/door entry fee to participate. It's easy to pass the basket in
> real-time in a face-to-face speaker meeting; not so easy in a Zoom
> meeting.
> >
> > 4. Workshop Chair. Who chairs the workshop(s)? My current thinking is
> that the Workshop Chair would be appointed by the Steering Committee. This
> would avoid having to elect new Workshop Chairs and give the Steering
> Committee working oversight on the workshops and the ability to make
> adjustments and/or course corrections quickly, if needed.
> >
> > 5. Limits on Topics. More thoughts for the Business Meeting and
> Steering Committee. For example, we have a long history at ASP of not
> having a sponsorship list (a list of members who are available as
> sponsors). We do not do this for a variety of reasons. . . for instance,
> unlike a f2f meeting, it is impossible for us to vet anyone that wants to
> be on the list, experience has shown us that folks that want to be on such
> a list are not necessarily the best choices for being a sponsor.
> > So, in the case of a Sponsorship Workshop, we would not want 'speakers'
> promoting something that is contrary to ASP practices and policies.
> >
> > 6. Format. I'm envisioning two possible formats. There may be more.
> One is a Workshop format with multiple short speakers, say 10-minute talks
> each, with a discussion Q&A after. Second is a pure speaker-meeting with a
> 30 to 45-minute speaker, possibly with some fellowship time after.
> >
> > Lastly, the decision on whether to venture down this path belongs to the
> membership in the Business Meeting. I would like to suggest that we put
> this on the agenda for a future March Business Meeting.
> >
> > Love and SERENITY,
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Businessmtg On Behalf Of Tori Sciacca via Businessmtg
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 6:31 AM
> > To: steve at serenitysys.com
> > Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> > Subject: [Businessmtg] Opportunities to grow
> >
> > I would love to see ASP offer these and other workshops to its members.
> > Received from another email group.
> >
> > Global Electronic Area = GEA
> >
> > SPONSORSHIP WORKSHOP - Limited to 1,000 Participants
> >
> >
> > [1]https://bit.ly/48rP5Xo
> >
> > MEETING ID: 892 2789 8013
> >
> > Passcode: 589938
> >
> >
> > /--------------------------------- YOUTH
> > WORKSHOP-----------------------------------/
> >
> >
> > From: @groups.io [2]3legs at groups.io On Behalf Of m d
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 5:23 AM
> > To: @groups.io
> > Subject: OT: Update to The Sponsorship Workshop
> >
> >
> > Some people may also be interested in the series of speakers meetings
> > about working with teens and children:
> >
> > Flyer attached is same text as below.
> >
> > In Service,
> >
> > Marc D.
> >
> >
> > Helping Children from Families of Alcoholics
> >
> > A monthly series of Speakers
> >
> > Via Zoom Online / Open to the Public
> >
> > Sponsored by Hope and Serenity in the Galil Al-Anon Family Group
> >
> > First Speaker of the Series: Monday, 5 February
> >
> > Time of meeting:
> >
> > 7:00 PM (19:00) Israel
> >
> > 5:00 PM (17:00) GMT
> >
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2024, at 10:14AM, Gerald McFarland
> > via groups.io <[3]BigWuf=yahoo.com at groups.io> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 12:00 Noon USA Eastern Time
> >
> >
> > Zoom
> > Link: [4]
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86502787198?pwd=K1llaE1GeVhwOHk1VEN
> > ob3ozNzg1dz09
> >
> > Meeting ID: 865 0278 7198
> > Passcode: 12steps
> >
> > For more information email: [5]twelve at outlook.co.il
> >
> > Intended for everyone: the general public, members of all twelve-step
> > fellowships, all parents, grandparents, health care professionals
> >
> > Our goals: To provide information that will encourage development of
> > groups for children and teenagers and help improve groups that already
> > exist.
> >
> >
> > First speaker topic:
> >
> > Stories of successful 12-Step groups, for young children, for teenagers
> > and teenagers inside a locked institution.
> >
> > How children and adults helped each other
> >
> > Tori +-)
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. https://bit.ly/48rP5Xo
> > 2. mailto:3legs at groups.io
> > 3. mailto:BigWuf=yahoo.com at groups.io
> > 4.
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86502787198?pwd=K1llaE1GeVhwOHk1VENob3ozNzg1dz09
> > 5. mailto:twelve at outlook.co.il
> >
> >
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