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Yes. This item is controversial it has also been discussed at a previous Business Meeting. Pease see the archives. 

http://www.asp-afg.org/mailman/private/businessmtg/


When an item not on the agenda is added then the meeting has to be reopened to the recovery membership according to the “rules”.  

I note that this additional item was posted to the general membership on October 9, 2017. 

I do not know any of the additional members personally. 

We now have a seconder to the motion. The motion is on the floor.  Discussion is only on the motion.  

Sandie 


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> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All:  .
> 
> This is a controversial issue and needs to be discussed at another time.
> 
> 
> I will first quote from BM link below about controversial issues:
> Then I will quote a member's quote on this issue from October 9 in this
> meeting:
> 
> Business Meeting format:
> 
> "!!. Major or controversial issues.  Issues which would result in a major
> change to ASP
> or are controversial in nature will have a delayed discussion and voting
> procedure".
> 
> 
> And also, may i bring your attention to #s 3 & 4 of same link below about
> BM format:
> 
> 3.  Once the discussion starts the Business Meeting will close and only
> those subscribed will be able to participate in the discussions and vote on
> the topic at hand.
> 
> 4.  At the end of that time any new members will be subscribed to the
> Business Meeting so that they may join in for the next topic.  This will
> allow for continuity in the topic, and prevent 'packing' the meeting just
> before a vote, and will also keep the meeting on track because we will not
> be revisiting the beginnings of the discussion and bringing new members up
> to speed"
> 
> So at this time I would like to add that bringing these new members ( no
> offense to you guys)  into the meeting is "packing" the meeting for a vote.
> 
> 
> 
> Member quote:
> 
> "Why are we bringing this to the October business meeting half way through
> the month?  And to what end?  Jane shared a compare doc with the business
> meeting back in May.  First, I want to stress that everything that Jane did
> to the website was filled with care and with the best intent, however, some
> content changes were substantial and none of it was discussed.
> 
> http://asp-afg.org/members/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/
> Members-Only-Websites-Old-versus-New.pdf
> 
> –I am not suggesting we roll anything back, however, I think because people
> are weary of the topic, they are willing to rush into approving it.  In
> rereading the archives that is exactly the response I am seeing, and not a
> consensus worthy of a motion.
> 
> –I think that the SC can review Jane's compare against the archived
> website.   Remember, the website is a publication and not a blog, changing
> content to jive with one person's experience is not appropriate.  Removing
> content that was voted on and replacing it with personal experiences that
> aren't voted on is also inappropriate.  Choosing a subset of acronyms
> instead of publishing them all is also not appropriate.  I could go on.
> The link to the PDF is well organized, and will be easy to work through.
> Jane did all the hardwork, refining and revising will be a production
> effort.
> 
> –I would like us to focus on the original topic and get folks to step
> forward in service instead of continuing to fuss over the website.
> 
> –Nowhere do I see on the original site that the business meeting agenda can
> change once the meeting starts. This is a change to the meeting format that
> was introduced and put on the newer website without a vote or approval from
> the Business Meeting.
> 
> –Original Business meeting documented format.  Voted on in 2006
> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/nbm/format.htm"
> 
> And please be reminded that what is said and the issues in the BM are not
> shared in the general recovery meeting.
> 
> 
> Thank you all for your consideration in these matters..
> 
> Peace and hugs,
> Beverly
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