[Businessmtg] Fwd: Website:

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> From: List Administrator <list_administrator at asp-afg.org>
> Date: October 17, 2017 at 8:46:31 AM EDT
> To: Sandie - list administrator - SC <list_administrator at asp-afg.org>
> Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Website:
> 
> Yes. This item is controversial it has also been discussed at a previous Business Meeting. Pease see the archives. 
> 
> http://www.asp-afg.org/mailman/private/businessmtg/
> 
> 
> When an item not on the agenda is added then the meeting has to be reopened to the recovery membership according to the “rules”.  
> 
> I note that this additional item was posted to the general membership on October 9, 2017. 
> 
> I do not know any of the additional members personally. 
> 
> We now have a seconder to the motion. The motion is on the floor.  Discussion is only on the motion.  
> 
> Sandie 
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>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All:  .
>> 
>> This is a controversial issue and needs to be discussed at another time.
>> 
>> 
>> I will first quote from BM link below about controversial issues:
>> Then I will quote a member's quote on this issue from October 9 in this
>> meeting:
>> 
>> Business Meeting format:
>> 
>> "!!. Major or controversial issues.  Issues which would result in a major
>> change to ASP
>> or are controversial in nature will have a delayed discussion and voting
>> procedure".
>> 
>> 
>> And also, may i bring your attention to #s 3 & 4 of same link below about
>> BM format:
>> 
>> 3.  Once the discussion starts the Business Meeting will close and only
>> those subscribed will be able to participate in the discussions and vote on
>> the topic at hand.
>> 
>> 4.  At the end of that time any new members will be subscribed to the
>> Business Meeting so that they may join in for the next topic.  This will
>> allow for continuity in the topic, and prevent 'packing' the meeting just
>> before a vote, and will also keep the meeting on track because we will not
>> be revisiting the beginnings of the discussion and bringing new members up
>> to speed"
>> 
>> So at this time I would like to add that bringing these new members ( no
>> offense to you guys)  into the meeting is "packing" the meeting for a vote.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Member quote:
>> 
>> "Why are we bringing this to the October business meeting half way through
>> the month?  And to what end?  Jane shared a compare doc with the business
>> meeting back in May.  First, I want to stress that everything that Jane did
>> to the website was filled with care and with the best intent, however, some
>> content changes were substantial and none of it was discussed.
>> 
>> http://asp-afg.org/members/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/
>> Members-Only-Websites-Old-versus-New.pdf
>> 
>> –I am not suggesting we roll anything back, however, I think because people
>> are weary of the topic, they are willing to rush into approving it.  In
>> rereading the archives that is exactly the response I am seeing, and not a
>> consensus worthy of a motion.
>> 
>> –I think that the SC can review Jane's compare against the archived
>> website.   Remember, the website is a publication and not a blog, changing
>> content to jive with one person's experience is not appropriate.  Removing
>> content that was voted on and replacing it with personal experiences that
>> aren't voted on is also inappropriate.  Choosing a subset of acronyms
>> instead of publishing them all is also not appropriate.  I could go on.
>> The link to the PDF is well organized, and will be easy to work through.
>> Jane did all the hardwork, refining and revising will be a production
>> effort.
>> 
>> –I would like us to focus on the original topic and get folks to step
>> forward in service instead of continuing to fuss over the website.
>> 
>> –Nowhere do I see on the original site that the business meeting agenda can
>> change once the meeting starts. This is a change to the meeting format that
>> was introduced and put on the newer website without a vote or approval from
>> the Business Meeting.
>> 
>> –Original Business meeting documented format.  Voted on in 2006
>> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/nbm/format.htm"
>> 
>> And please be reminded that what is said and the issues in the BM are not
>> shared in the general recovery meeting.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you all for your consideration in these matters..
>> 
>> Peace and hugs,
>> Beverly
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