[Businessmtg] Fwd: Website:

Tue Oct 17 09:34:02 PDT 2017

Please advise why you have asked me to see the previous email.
Kristen

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:29 AM List Administrator <
list_administrator at asp-afg.org> wrote:

> Please see previous email
>
> Sandie
> List Administrator
> Please join us at Al-Anon's Sixth International Convention
>
>
> http://www.al-anoninternationalconvention.org/sixthInternational.html
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>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: List Administrator <list_administrator at asp-afg.org>
> > Date: October 17, 2017 at 8:46:31 AM EDT
> > To: Sandie - list administrator - SC <list_administrator at asp-afg.org>
> > Cc: ASP Business <businessmtg at asp-afg.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Businessmtg] Website:
> >
> > Yes. This item is controversial it has also been discussed at a previous
> Business Meeting. Pease see the archives.
> >
> > http://www.asp-afg.org/mailman/private/businessmtg/
> >
> >
> > When an item not on the agenda is added then the meeting has to be
> reopened to the recovery membership according to the “rules”.
> >
> > I note that this additional item was posted to the general membership on
> October 9, 2017.
> >
> > I do not know any of the additional members personally.
> >
> > We now have a seconder to the motion. The motion is on the floor.
> Discussion is only on the motion.
> >
> > Sandie
> >
> >
> > Please join us at Al-Anon's Sixth International Convention
> >
> > http://www.al-anoninternationalconvention.org/sixthInternational.html
> >
> >> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Sandie Parkker <sandieparkker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All:  .
> >>
> >> This is a controversial issue and needs to be discussed at another time.
> >>
> >>
> >> I will first quote from BM link below about controversial issues:
> >> Then I will quote a member's quote on this issue from October 9 in this
> >> meeting:
> >>
> >> Business Meeting format:
> >>
> >> "!!. Major or controversial issues.  Issues which would result in a
> major
> >> change to ASP
> >> or are controversial in nature will have a delayed discussion and voting
> >> procedure".
> >>
> >>
> >> And also, may i bring your attention to #s 3 & 4 of same link below
> about
> >> BM format:
> >>
> >> 3.  Once the discussion starts the Business Meeting will close and only
> >> those subscribed will be able to participate in the discussions and
> vote on
> >> the topic at hand.
> >>
> >> 4.  At the end of that time any new members will be subscribed to the
> >> Business Meeting so that they may join in for the next topic.  This will
> >> allow for continuity in the topic, and prevent 'packing' the meeting
> just
> >> before a vote, and will also keep the meeting on track because we will
> not
> >> be revisiting the beginnings of the discussion and bringing new members
> up
> >> to speed"
> >>
> >> So at this time I would like to add that bringing these new members ( no
> >> offense to you guys)  into the meeting is "packing" the meeting for a
> vote.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Member quote:
> >>
> >> "Why are we bringing this to the October business meeting half way
> through
> >> the month?  And to what end?  Jane shared a compare doc with the
> business
> >> meeting back in May.  First, I want to stress that everything that Jane
> did
> >> to the website was filled with care and with the best intent, however,
> some
> >> content changes were substantial and none of it was discussed.
> >>
> >> http://asp-afg.org/members/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/
> >> Members-Only-Websites-Old-versus-New.pdf
> >>
> >> –I am not suggesting we roll anything back, however, I think because
> people
> >> are weary of the topic, they are willing to rush into approving it.  In
> >> rereading the archives that is exactly the response I am seeing, and
> not a
> >> consensus worthy of a motion.
> >>
> >> –I think that the SC can review Jane's compare against the archived
> >> website.   Remember, the website is a publication and not a blog,
> changing
> >> content to jive with one person's experience is not appropriate.
> Removing
> >> content that was voted on and replacing it with personal experiences
> that
> >> aren't voted on is also inappropriate.  Choosing a subset of acronyms
> >> instead of publishing them all is also not appropriate.  I could go on.
> >> The link to the PDF is well organized, and will be easy to work through.
> >> Jane did all the hardwork, refining and revising will be a production
> >> effort.
> >>
> >> –I would like us to focus on the original topic and get folks to step
> >> forward in service instead of continuing to fuss over the website.
> >>
> >> –Nowhere do I see on the original site that the business meeting agenda
> can
> >> change once the meeting starts. This is a change to the meeting format
> that
> >> was introduced and put on the newer website without a vote or approval
> from
> >> the Business Meeting.
> >>
> >> –Original Business meeting documented format.  Voted on in 2006
> >> http://www.asp-afg.org/ASP/nbm/format.htm"
> >>
> >> And please be reminded that what is said and the issues in the BM are
> not
> >> shared in the general recovery meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you all for your consideration in these matters..
> >>
> >> Peace and hugs,
> >> Beverly
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