[Businessmtg] Current original agenda Oct bus meeting and the late addition

Jane Anon happynjoyousnfree at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 18:47:30 PDT 2017


Beverly, please read Anne's earlier email. Either the Secretary OR the LA
can chair the BM.

On Oct 17, 2017 9:29 PM, "Sandie Parkker" <sandieparkker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jane.  As far as I can tell from our policies, when Laura resigned from
> Secretary position, she resigned authority as well.  There is no back up
> for the Secretary position, like there is for the List Administrator.
>
> If there is no authority to state control of the agenda, we can't go to
> Roberts Rules.  We are still in the KBDM process.
>
> There is no authority until the SC comes up with an agenda to place or
> replace the chain of command.
>
> So this being said, Sandie took it upon herself to assume those positions
> of the Greeter Chair, Secretary, and List Administrator.  There are some
> procedures in place to take care of this type of problem as I referenced
> above.  This is an obstacle of success in our program.  Assuming three
> positions.  This is called a consolidation of power in my book.
>
>   Sandie could have chosen to ask you, Jane to take the BM in September,
> but she did not and chose to skip a month.
>
> These vacant positions needed to constitute an emergency BM to formulate a
> plan for coverage.  This did not happen.
> Why didn't this happen? Because Sandie was/is doing things outside of her
> authority.  So for now we are stuck in KBDM process.
>
> Also.  There was no announcement that Sandie assumed the Greeter Chair
> position.  And who gave the List Administrator authority to appoint
> greeters?  Seems like consolidation of power to me.
>
> As far as motions go, they are out of order until we have a concensus.
>
> Peace and hugs,
> Beverly
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:42 PM Jane Anon <happynjoyousnfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We are only discussing one topic at a time because we finished discussing
>> the SC positions. Voting is going on, but the added members were not given
>> the link for those polls. So there is no reason not to discuss this topic.
>>
>> All you can really argue is that the motion was made prematurely, but
>> reversion to Robert's Rules is at the chair's discretion, I believe. I
>> can't see how allowing the members to voice their opinions on websites
>> they
>> are currently using violates any Al-Anon traditions or warranties.
>>
>> Honestly, the hostility in this meeting is breath-taking, though I no
>> longer find it surprising. Sandie is chairing the meeting, setting and
>> following an agenda which is at her discretion to do. If you want to vote
>> against the website or discuss it further before a vote is taken, ok, but
>> I
>> don't think it's appropriate to continually undermine the chair in this
>> way.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017 7:26 PM, "Anne OHara" <aohara77 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > All,  enough evidence has been produced that confirms this late addition
>> > is totally illegitimate. No motion should have ever been brought
>> forward. I
>> > object to the list administrators coercion in pushing it through when
>> our
>> > policies are clear. It is a total disregard of Al-Anon traditions,
>> concepts
>> > and warranties.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
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